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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: General Scheme of the Industrial Relations (Provisions in Respect of Pension Entitlements of Retired Workers) Bill 2021: Discussion (25 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: I presume the witnesses have seen the submissions by other organisations on this issue, for example from IBEC and so on. Do they have opinions on those?

Forestry Sector: Motion [Private Members] (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: I thank Sinn Féin for bringing forward this motion opposing the disgraceful deal entered into between Coillte and Gresham House. It seems that there is no crisis where the Government does not think that equity funds is the solution. With housing and climate; who does it call? It calls equity funds. Its neoliberal mantra is that private capital and profit making are the solution...

Human Tissue (Transplantation, Post-Mortem, Anatomical Examination and Public Display) Bill 2022: Second Stage (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: We welcome the Bill and its key provisions. The provisions to support and increase organ donation and transplant through a soft opt-out system of consent are welcome and should ensure many more organs become available for transplant. That is obviously very good news for the more than 500 people in Ireland who are on waiting lists for organ donation. In 2021, there were 203 organ donations...

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: Last week, the Minister told the House he sold them.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: Did Michael Stone help with postering in the 2019 local and European elections?

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: Fine Gael was involved in an election. This is a guy who makes donations in the form of putting up posters for Fine Gael in the 2016 and 2020 general elections but he does not do so in 2019. He only seems to get involved when the Minister is standing for election. Is that right?

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: Okay, so they look like donations to the Minister as opposed to Fine Gael. Just to confirm, the Minister is saying that the donations of the assistance of the labour, worth €972 in 2020, and the use of the vans, which were €434.20 in 2020, were donations to Fine Gael as opposed to the Minister.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: The Minister also said last week that he sold tickets with a donation value of €334 in 2020 to Michael Stone. Is that right?

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: That would also be a donation to Fine Gael North Central, presumably?

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: Okay, but it was a donation to Fine Gael.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: Collectively, in 2020, with a donation of €972, and the figures of €434.20 and €334 in 2020, that is a total of €1,740 in that year. Is that accurate?

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: That does not matter in terms of the legislation.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: This is the problem. When the Minister begins to tell untruths he begins to trip himself up. It does not make any difference where the donations went. If they were donations to Fine Gael, they fall under the rules for donations to a party. The Minister is, presumably, aware that if a party receives donations or donations in aggregate exceeding €1,500 in any one year, it needs to...

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: Again I emphasise that this does not matter. The Minister is known to be quite good with figures: €972, €434.20 and €343 is a total of €1,740, when the maximum that can be accepted without being accounted for in the election statement is €1,500. Yet Michael Stone does not appear on the donation statement. The Minister is just landing Fine Gael in it with...

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: Correct.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: Michael Stone is clear-----

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: -----that he arranged, supplied and paid.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: Two different-----

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: It makes no difference whatsoever. They are two arms of Fine Gael. The Minister is responsible for SIPO. He is meant to know this stuff. In 2017, the Minister became aware of the issue around the use of a van in 2016. Why on earth did he proceed to do the same thing all over again in 2020?

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paul Murphy: That is not the question.

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