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Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Would Mr. Walsh be conscious of them?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: I have seen a practice beginning to develop around the country where people have been in default, they cannot pay, they have gone, and the banks are left owning the house. Local authorities are telling me that sometimes the bank lets it go because it is not worth trying to sell it on the open market and they like the CPO process because it gets the property off their hands, they get the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: They would be happy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: They also end up getting a cheque without leaving their desks. That is the other side of it. I concur completely with Deputy O'Connell's comments about the location for oral hearings and the independence of those. I understand that other members have expressed their own views about whether the hearings should be held in local authority buildings. It is not a view of the committee and it...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: We have three out of nine. I had it on my list but the Deputy beat me to it. I wanted to raise it but the Deputy has dealt with it. That is all I am saying. It was raised, if not dealt with, I should say.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Are people appointed to the board through the Public Appointments Service or how does that happen?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: How old is that legislation?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: But it is not done.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: This committee looks at corporate governance and we hear about appointments to boards. Sometimes the boards need a person who knows corporate governance, a person with a financial background, or somebody in the medical field. I do not need to know their résumés but will the witnesses send on to us their backgrounds?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes. Who on the board has a financial background, who has a legal background and how many planners are there?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: I ask Mr. Walsh to send it on.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: I will come to the county manager. I understand somebody who has a public job and who goes back working-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: I wanted to put that on the record. An Bord Pleanála's members would have been around the country when they hired a county manager, and now he is in with An Bord Pleanála, so his salary-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: That means that the person's salary cannot exceed-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: -----the salary of his or her original or current position.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Fair dues to that person. They are working for very little. They must love their job.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: I just wanted to confirm that-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: -----because it would have raised queries as the day went on. Mr. Walsh will send us information about the quorum, which I know he has.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is ridiculous to think all ten people should look for a house extension. One could not operate without a quorum. It is really an executive board.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: I was about to say it is like the courts. An Bord Pleanála assigns the various members of its board like whoever runs the business in the courts assigns judges to different cases. It is a bit like that because An Bord Pleanála's role is quasi-judicial to an extent, so I see a parallel. It is not the case that every member of the High Court sits on every case. I think that when...

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