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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: As a matter of interest, does Ms Brogan think it should be, or where should it rest? I know I am presenting her with an academic type of question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: I am happy to conclude there.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: The comments of the Chairman are backed up by the documentation we received in the context of the report I spoke about in terms of public tendering and the one the Chairman has quoted from. That is why it is important we have further meetings on this. I ask Ms Brogan to give me, if not today then by email, the concluding dates for Dunkettle and Macroom. I thank her again for being here today.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: I welcome the witnesses and thank them for being here. If Mr. Parlon were to give us a task from today's meeting, what would it be, based on his meeting with us and the presentation we received earlier from the Department of Transport?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: Could Mr. Sheridan distil the last two chunks of his presentation down for us? In simple language, what does it mean for the committee to go to the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform? Does he believe that Department, from the Minister down, is seriously engaged, passively engaged or not engaged at all?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: Is that in terms of staff personnel, working from home or otherwise?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: Mr. Parlon's reference in his opening statement to the issue concerning the Office of Government Procurement from 2019 about risk transfer because the market was not pricing risk, as well as Mr. Sheridan's contribution, are interesting to us. We are in a perfect storm, but it has led to an opportunity for reform and realignment of the process. The case study at the back of Mr. Parlon's...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: That is true.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: I am happy, Chairman. Well, I am not happy. I go back to my earlier conversation piece about the documentation we got today and Mr. Sheridan's remarks about the CIF members. The decline in the Civil Engineering Contractors Association membership, the tendering process and the number who are not tendering, and the development of contractors disproportionately increasing their turnover in...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: May I ask a question on that issue? My apologies to Deputy Canney for interrupting. On Mr. Parlon's point relating to banks, how have banks facilitated, helped or hindered in the whole process? I ask that as an aside.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: To add to that, the supplier and the bank's relationship with the supplier is also part of that equation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: As part of its preparation for today’s meeting, the committee received a document entitled, Public Tendering Practices and their Impact on Delivering Value in the Construction Sector. A worrying issue for me and other members of the committee is that since 2009 the number of members of the Civil Engineering Contractors Association has fallen from 138 to 77. Another recent...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Reform of Public Works Contracts for the Construction of Transport Infrastructure: Discussion (27 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: Given our two meetings today, I ask Mr. Parlon, if he were to give the committee a task based on what we have heard from the present witnesses and from the Department of Transport, what would it be?

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (26 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank the Cathaoirleach for raising the sad passing of Michael O’Kennedy and sympathise with his wife, Breda, and family. I got to know the late former Minister in his retirement. He was a gentleman and was always encouraging to me despite any political differences we might have had. I also wish to be associated with the remarks regarding Jimmy Leonard and extend my sympathies to...

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (26 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: On a point of order-----

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (26 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: I do not want to have a row on the Order of Business today but I would just make this point to Senator Keogan. The Minister for Health is not signing away sovereignty. He is not doing any of that, as the Cathaoirleach knows. This is important. Words matter.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (26 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: I am sorry but I want to make this point, with respect. I am good man for the heckling and I am a good man for raising the political gallop, but our words in this Chamber, and in these Houses of the Oireachtas, matter. The Cathaoirleach, as the presiding officer, has a duty not just to us, as Members, but to the people watching with regard to the false information being given by certain...

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (26 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: I am being respectful.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (26 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: May I pose a question? Does the Cathaoirleach actually believe the Minister for Health is signing away our sovereignty? The Cathaoirleach knows that he is not.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (26 Apr 2022)

Jerry Buttimer: We should not allow these untruths to be perpetrated in this Chamber. That is the point I am making.

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