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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: How long could it take in total?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: On what date did the new operational system come into place for young adults?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I call Deputy Cathal Crowe.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I now go to Senator Horkan, who has five minutes. We can stretch it to six minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: We will be undertaking a module, probably after Christmas, on the issue of emissions in transport. Something like-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: The Senator has touched on something there.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: What are the priority issues for the CTTC?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: The 20% reduction.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I acknowledge the presence in the Public Gallery of two good friends of mine, Mr. Peter Doyle and Mr. Tony White, both esteemed former past pupils of Crescent College and Crescent College Comprehensive, respectively. It is great to have them here today. I hope they are enjoying the proceedings.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: That is for myself.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I can see the Jesuit education coming out in Mr. Conway today.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: We would not want to deprive-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: -----the Dáil Chamber of his esteemed wisdom.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I have interacted with the CTTC since the start of the pandemic. I have spoken to Mr. Willie Martin, the local man in Limerick, and I acknowledge the work he has done. A commercial operator in Limerick lost all its supports post pandemic and the route was not commercially viable. I worked to secure a PSO for that route and it has been quite dramatic. I must get down to the granular...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I find that difficult. I worked to try to fast-track that. I saw for myself in real time the process of getting a route up and running. I am familiar with that process. If a provider is up and running within the NTA's internal system to provide the fare reduction for young adults, I presume that bringing forth the 20% reduction for the general population is only a variation on that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Mr. Conway expects that would cost €24 million.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Have many members of the CTTC had to discontinue routes from when the subsidies that were available ended until the end of June or thereabouts because the 20% reduction does not apply to them?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is any work being done by the CTTC to consider the implications for its members of not qualifying for the general 20% reduction? Has the CTTC been able to do any empirical work in that regard?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I suspect some CTTC members have PSO routes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Those companies probably have a very good picture of the situation. If the witnesses have more empirical work, we will follow up on it. We are trying to promote public transport by offering a 20% reduction on PSO routes. The argument is that to create a level playing field, that reduction should apply to all routes. Is that the point, in simple terms?

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