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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: It is like anything; Mr. Gleeson will be here this time next year and I will be asking how it is going. I suppose we will see how it goes. I have a question for Mr. Callanan. With regard to the measuring of emissions, are CO2 and methane measured in the same way?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Does that make sense? Methane, as we know, is less harmful. It stays in the atmosphere a lot less, for ten years effectively when it is dispersed, whereas CO2 is accumulated. How does it make sense to convert methane emissions into CO2?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Let us consider the farmer in this country who is producing methane, and then consider some body that is operating vehicles, for example, Irish Rail with trains that are not carbon efficient, if methane is gone within ten years and is less harmful why do we concentrate so heavily on the farmer when there is another sector producing lots of carbon emissions? Why do we concentrate so heavily,...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Mr. Gleeson is the first Secretary General I have heard to say he was not an expert. We have recorded it.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: At what rate does CO2 heat in comparison to methane? Mr. Gleeson said he is not an expert but that very much sounded like an expert opinion on methane.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: What does reducing CO2 do?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Equating it to what Mr. Gleeson just said, if we know how much reducing methane reduces warming, what does CO2 reduction do in comparison?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Based on the Department's advice.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Based on whose advice?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I understand Government------

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Before Mr. Callanan finishes, I just want to ask him the question.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: To my knowledge nobody in government is an expert on climate, not in our Government anyway. Who gives Government the advice to set the targets?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Does the Department of Agriculture, Food and Marine have somebody sitting on that?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: The Department had 64 contracts with non-compliance issues in the context of procurement for 2021, to the value of €3.8 million. Has that been rectified?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Has it been rectified?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Does Mr. Gleeson have a figure for 2022?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is the figure significantly reduced?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: We will check that. On what basis has the Department come to the conclusion that sheep farmers should not be included in the Brexit adjustment reserve, BAR, fund?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: As someone who drew lambs for 20 years, I am also fairly close to the sheep sector.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is Mr. Gleeson telling me that because sheep farmers are supported under other schemes, and despite being affected by Brexit, they are not eligible for the BAR?

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