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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: Is the Department considering Duleek?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: I discussed this issue with the witness last year, so I am welcoming it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: Is the witness aware that one of the principals there had serious concerns, which were relayed to another official in the Department, about next September?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: Is the witness saying the Department could possibly revise this to include Ashbourne if necessary?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: This relates to what the witness mentioned about housing. Is the system missing housing?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: Is the witness confident of that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: A huge amount of housing has been built in Ashbourne in the last few years, including family homes and starter homes. It is the same in Dunshaughlin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: There is nothing in LIHAF. LIHAF was not applicable in those areas.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: Is the witness confident that the system would have picked up all of that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: Incidentally, it is not just the junior infants. I have a general concern as well. I am sorry for hogging the meeting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: People who are moving into a four bedroom detached house are likely to have children who are already at school so they want them to get into fourth class or first year, for example. That appears to be a major problem in various towns such as Ashbourne and Dunshaughlin at present.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: The witness has raised another point. I never dealt with Tusla or that side of education until last year in Ashbourne. I never had cause to do so, but now I have. How often does the Department meet Tusla? I worry that the Department of Children and Youth Affairs and Tusla are on another side with information about children who are not able to get into school. In some areas, and I will...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: If I may take the liberty as Acting Chairman to interrupt the witness, it has been pointed out to me and it is a reasonable criticism that despite what Mr. Loftus said, it is not easier to look at what is on the website. Nobody knows what stage 1 or stage 2b is. Nobody knows what these terms mean. Dáil Deputies might possibly know but I would say a lot of them do not. Deputy Lahart...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: I acknowledge what Mr. Loftus has said in respect of Whitecross national school in terms of the Department's plan for the start of construction. It has been at stage 2 for the best part of ten years or more so that does not really give parents any information. There was some level of detail in a previous list that is now absent.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: Are those projects in addition to the 341 mentioned?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: Holy God.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: The total is 341 plus 575 plus 42 is 958.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: There are 958, so what we have been saying until now is under-selling the problem. I have looked at the Estimates for 2008 to 2009. The witness has said that there was €110 million for schools. I am looking at the national schools Estimate for 2009, which was €422 million.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Schools Building Programme Delays: Discussion (17 Apr 2018)

Thomas Byrne: I am in the hands of the Chair.

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