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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: I call Deputy Catherine Murphy. The Deputy will have five minutes now on foot of time issues.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: As briefly as possible, due to time issues.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: I just want to be fair to Teachta Murphy.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: Is that okay?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: Go raibh maith agat. I wanted to be fair.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: Go raibh maith ag an Teachta. We will now take a short break and the meeting is suspended for ten minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: Surely that is the crux of the issue. If the productivity and savings task force is meant to reduce agency spend, does Ms McGirr not believe that it is a bit of a-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: Just because we have two less.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: Teachta, you need to finish.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: Will the witnesses clarify where on the HSE website the internal reports are? We will then close the meeting. Can that be clarified quickly?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: I know but the website is important.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: There are more than just the journalists.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: I thank the witnesses again. I thank the staff of the HSE and the Department of Health for the work involved in preparing for today's meeting. I thank the Comptroller and Auditor General and his staff for attending and assisting the committee today. Is it agreed that the clerk will seek any follow-up information and carry out any agreed action arising from the meeting? Agreed.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023: Health Service Executive (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: Yes, and I have sought an update on Carraroe. Is it agreed that we note and publish the opening statement and briefing provided for today's meeting? Agreed.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: The public business before us is as follows: minutes, accounts and statements, correspondence, consideration of a draft committee work programme, and any other business. The first item of business is the minutes of our meetings of 17 and 22 October, which have been circulated to members. Do members wish to raise any matters in relation to the minutes? No. Are the minutes agreed? Agreed....

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: Is it agreed to note the listing of accounts and financial statements? Agreed. As usual, the listing of accounts and financial statements will be published as part of our minutes. I will move to correspondence. As previously agreed, items that were not flagged for discussion for this meeting will be dealt with in accordance with the proposed actions that have been circulated, and...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: Absolutely. That can be done. Is that everything on that item of correspondence?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: No. R2855, received from Mr. John Hogan, Secretary General of the Department of Finance, is correspondence providing information requested by the committee regarding the Greystones media campus. I propose to note and publish this item. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: I will come in on that. I totally agree. It is not good enough. I understand that as a result of it being a commercial entity, the Department is able to claim that some of the information cannot be given, but we need to see if we can get any more information. That is agreed. We will do that. It is to be hoped we will get some kind of response before we meet again. Updated actions are...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: I think we probably still will be here on 7 November. There is the issue of invitations being sent ten days in advance and that would allow for 7 November. Otherwise I am happy to meet next week if it comes back and says it cannot do 7 November but can do next week. Would Deputy Murphy be in agreement with this?

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