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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Examination of Potential Consequences - Protecting and Enhancing the Provision of Palliative Care: Discussion (12 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: Even though the person is one, two, three, or six weeks away from death would they be moved? It does not feel like patient-centred care then.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Examination of Potential Consequences - Protecting and Enhancing the Provision of Palliative Care: Discussion (12 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: Where would the patient go?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Examination of Potential Consequences - Protecting and Enhancing the Provision of Palliative Care: Discussion (12 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: I am not talking about that. I am talking about someone who chooses that, under a model and where it is legal and they are in the hospice and will die very soon. Families are being called in. We know the person is going to die, whatever the number of weeks put on it. We have a ballpark figure. The person says that under this model, they would like to access assisted dying because they do...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Examination of Potential Consequences - Protecting and Enhancing the Provision of Palliative Care: Discussion (12 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: I am thinking of the patients Dr. McQuillan spoke about who she sat with and who refused medication. That is already a right, in that people can withdraw their desire to have any sort of treatment or to eat or drink. Senator Mullen spoke about the moral pressure when things change. However, the end result there is that an intervention that goes against all the other principles people put...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Examination of Potential Consequences - Protecting and Enhancing the Provision of Palliative Care: Discussion (12 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: Why does the idea of someone withdrawing medical care not have the same impact as assisted dying? You could say the same because we allow for the right to refuse medication legally. Why has that not had a knock on effect on everybody who might think they will do that when they see that people want to avail of assisted dying? The public support is there with people saying they want to see...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Examination of Potential Consequences - Protecting and Enhancing the Provision of Palliative Care: Discussion (12 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: Then you would not give people morphine. It would not be medicalised at all.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Examination of Potential Consequences - Protecting and Enhancing the Provision of Palliative Care: Discussion (12 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: That is not nature taking its course. We intervene to prolong deaths. That is not nature taking its course.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Examination of Potential Consequences - Protecting and Enhancing the Provision of Palliative Care: Discussion (12 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: I have.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Examination of Potential Consequences - Protecting and Enhancing the Provision of Palliative Care: Discussion (12 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: I do not agree with nature taking its course because if one goes back to the invention of palliative care, medicalising death has already happened in how we prolong life at a particular stage or give medication. Allowing something to take its natural course does not include morphine or painkillers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Examination of Potential Consequences - Protecting and Enhancing the Provision of Palliative Care: Discussion (12 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: Why does it? That is also a human invention. How is that the natural course?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Examination of Potential Consequences - Protecting and Enhancing the Provision of Palliative Care: Discussion (12 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: Why is the capacity of one's mind to choose to die not part of the natural course? If we can say that all these instances and external things form part of nature, then some people's minds and their capacity to choose something is also within that field of nature.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Examination of Potential Consequences - Protecting and Enhancing the Provision of Palliative Care: Discussion (12 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: It is not, actually.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Examination of Potential Consequences - Protecting and Enhancing the Provision of Palliative Care: Discussion (12 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: Their natural course from what point in life? Going back to the natural course of what? They are slowly moving closer and closer to death. Maybe they are becoming more incapacitated. What does Dr. Doré mean about returning to their natural-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Examination of Potential Consequences - Protecting and Enhancing the Provision of Palliative Care: Discussion (12 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: It is because the person asked, it is not the reason for seeking it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Examination of Potential Consequences - Protecting and Enhancing the Provision of Palliative Care: Discussion (12 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: Of course, but what I am saying is that people are not given assisted suicide based on the fact that they arrive and say they are a burden.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Examination of Potential Consequences - Protecting and Enhancing the Provision of Palliative Care: Discussion (12 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: Of course.

Seanad: Electoral (Amendment) Bill 2023: Second Stage (7 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: I agree with Senator Moynihan's comments about the importance of protecting people’s home addresses. The Minister of State is welcome to the House. There has been much discussion about the role of the new Electoral Commission in devising these boundaries. I will not rehash what has been said. I will be tabling amendments on Committee Stage which do not relate to the schedule but to...

Seanad: Electoral (Amendment) Bill 2023: Second Stage (7 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: I am sorry to interrupt but if you have never been elected, you will have not a constituency office.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Lynn Ruane: I thank the Minister. On Monday, a man in the prison system who has been both a victim of violence throughout his life, including in his childhood, and a perpetrator of violence, which led him to the prison system, directed me to somebody I had not previously come across in my work, although the Minister might have done so. His name is Professor James Gilligan. I have spent a lot of time...

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