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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: I understand that totally. Basically people would log in.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: They would be permanently logged in. I presume the GAA would agree with that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: They are two slightly different points but the same thing in a different way. This is actually a very important point and something we can probably help with. If Mr. Quinn and Mr. Webb write to the committee regarding both sides of what they just said - one on the EPG and one on the app-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: -----we will try to bring that through. That is a good end to our meeting. I thank the witnesses for their time. We will now suspend for a short break.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: This is our second session of the day. We will continue our pre-legislative scrutiny of the revised general scheme of the broadcasting (amendment) Bill. In this session we will hear from the NUJ, RTÉ trade union group, SIPTU, and Unite the Union. I warmly welcome the following witnesses to the meeting: Mr. Séamus Dooley, Irish secretary of the NUJ, Mr. Cearbhall Ó...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: I thank Mr. O'Brien. I thank all the witnesses for their comprehensive statements. We will now put questions for four minutes, beginning with Senator Comyn.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Would Mr. Kane and Mr. Gerry O'Brien like to come in briefly as well?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Could Mr. Gerry O'Brien respond very briefly?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: It was remiss of me not to welcome Jessica Freed, SIPTU vice president.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: That sounds fairly startling.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Dooley spoke at the beginning of the distinction between commercial and independent. It was staring us in the face but it was too close to us. We needed to actually have it said to us. There is a huge differential because RTÉ can produce independently. Mr. O'Brien outlined the producer being asked to sign away for all areas. That is deeply concerning if it is a trend, which it...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Any evidence of that would be helpful to us all.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Reams, so produce it formally. We have all got hints and documentation in other ways. It is obvious there are deep concerns in the committee about diminishing worker standards in relation to employment law and outsourcing, particularly in RTÉ. Senator Ní Chuilinn asked a question and it was never fully answered. Where is morale in RTÉ?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Is that "Upfront"?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: There was no consultation on that either.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Has it got worse?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Has that been confirmed?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Is there a fear, similar to the religious programming and what happened with the Monday night show, this will happen without consultation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: When did that happen?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: General Scheme of the Broadcasting (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: I understand. We will go around again with Senator Ní Chuilinn going first.

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