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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Okay. On food safety, my colleague touched on the issue of outside catering. Again, it is anecdotal evidence, but the word around the campfire is that there is outside catering at a number of events. I know that in the normal course there might be a soccer match between one prison and another, leagues and so on, as there are in the Garda and the Army, and that there might be outside...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: The cost is covered from the central fund for the Irish Prison Service fund in paying the bills.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: That is fine. On unqualified personnel dealing with and serving food, I note that, according to a 2018 audit, the HSE stated it was a matter of serious concern. Is there any update on it? Are there still unqualified personnel preparing and serving food?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: As there are 12 prisons, I am not homing in on any one.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Is it safe to say, notwithstanding an unforeseen event such as an accident on the way to work or an illness, that all staff allocated to that role have the appropriate qualifications ?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: For the record, is it Mr. Culliton's instinct that, yes, it is the case, or, no, that it is possibly or probably not the case?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I will have to accept that answer. In providing catering at outside events, a matter to which Deputy Kelly, are the witnesses aware if any prison catered for or provided food at a private function such as an anniversary, birthday, First Holy Communion, Confirmation or retirement event?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Even if it were for a staff member.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: If I was the governor and celebrating my 25th wedding anniversary, it would not be an appropriate use.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Who within the Irish Prison Service is responsible for fixed assets?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: It is great to see somebody taking responsibility. Under the heading of fixed assets, there is a policy on fleet management.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Good. Our research indicates that there are some vehicles missing. Is Mr. Caldbeck aware of any missing vehicle?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I ask him specifically to investigate a Hyundai i40 allocated to the Midlands Prison to discover, in particular, where it is and who has it. I also ask him to investigate a van at Mountjoy Prison and a tractor at Shelton Abbey that my research indicates may not be accounted for. I appreciate that he cannot do so here today. Obviously, there are multiple vehicles in the fleet and we are all...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Perhaps for the governor.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I want to get a breakdown showing where all of the vehicles are, without the individuals' names, such that it can be said, "The governor has access to this vehicle," or, "Officer Y has this one." There is a suggestion that while the witnesses might be told that everything is in order, it is not.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Perhaps the fleet manager has asked some questions too, not that I know who he or she is. I ask that the matter be checked.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I think it was the Midlands Prison, but it is missing, or so that is what has been said by the campfire. There was also a van at Mountjoy Prison and a tractor at Shelton Abbey. There is a suggestion lawn mowers are unaccounted for. I presume Irish Prison Service lawn mowers are of industrial scale. Is Mr. Caldbeck based in Longford or Dublin?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Perhaps they have been accounted for, but there is a suggestion they have not. Accounting is needed in that regard. On a separate issue, all of the nurses in prisons are agency nurses. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: They are permanent employees of the Irish Prison Service and there are so many in each prison, with one or two always on duty.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 21 - Prisons
(17 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: How many agency nurses are employed?

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