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Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Do they all come back through the NTA for that purpose, even those of the private operators?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: At what rate of tax is the deduction?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: So it can be 40%.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Let us say an annual ticket happens to cost €2,000.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Gaston has answered the question. I was concerned that the NTA was getting only the net amount.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: The NTA gets the full gross amount, to the value-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: -----and they get the tax back, between them and the Revenue Commissioners.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: The NTA is not involved and does not know whether a rate of 20% or 40% is applied. That has nothing to do with the NTA.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: My sole purpose in asking my question was to establish that the NTA gets the gross value of the tickets, not the value net of tax. I am pleased to know the NTA is not at a loss. I have one question on the accounts. The legal fees were €1.44 million, up from €695,000. Why so? What was the big issue last year in regard to legal fees? It was a big jump. I refer to page 87.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: On that very case, did the NTA win or lose?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: So the NTA might have costs awarded. Ms Graham does not know.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is still ongoing.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: So the figure we see here is not the final one.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is fine. When I was coming to this meeting at 9 o'clock this morning, a lady stopped me in the corridor and said I had to ask the NTA about disabled customers often having to give advance notice as to when they want to use a service. Will Ms Graham talk me through that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Could Ms Graham explain those services again for people watching?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Ms Graham is saying there is a lift but no space unless special arrangements are made.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Ms Graham can understand why the person stopped me on the way to the meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: The last question might not concern Ms Graham. With more people commuting, who is responsible for car parking at train stations? Is it a matter for Iarnród Éireann or does the NTA have a role? Does it help to fund the service? As far as Iarnród Éireann is concerned, it is in the business of carrying people on trains, not putting in tarmacadam car parks for its...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Does the NTA partly fund that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: I am thinking of the commuter belt. Louth, Meath, Kildare and Laois commuters are all affected.

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