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Seanad: Order of Business (19 Sep 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: Senator McFadden asked the Minister to step up.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Sep 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: I am watching everything the Government is doing.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Sep 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: Absolutely not. I was proud to be here. When Fine Gael's own Senator does not agree with the Minister-----

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Sep 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: Absolutely and that is why I was proud to stand outside Leinster House today. The Leader was not out there but I was.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Sep 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: I am sorry but I was proud to stand outside there today, a Chathaoirligh. I made the effort to go out.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Sep 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: I am delighted to be back, Leader.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Sep 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: Absolutely.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: I too want to address some questions. Mr. Cahillane's colleagues said here on 3 July that checks on Carillion in the UK were flawed but that the National Development Finance Agency, NDFA, had done everything it could to vet the company in Ireland. That is unacceptable. Does he feel that the subcontractors sitting in the room can accept that? He cannot stand over the fact that the NDFA had...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: Who vetted Sammon?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: So there was a risk with Sammon straight away. It was not vetted.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: That is unacceptable. Risk is Mr. Cahillane's area of expertise. Is it not risky to let one company regulate how it operates without any further checks apart from certification at the end? I am not suggesting micromanaging companies, but we have no accountability. We are sitting here today asking questions and I really feel they are not being answered. There is no accountability. Mr....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: I do not believe that. That is why things need to change. Did the NDFA not know of, or hear anecdotally, stories of these companies' bad track record of paying subcontractors in other jurisdictions? Did it have any say in to whom Carillion awarded the contract? If so, what criteria were involved? I cannot understand. Mr. Cahillane said the NDFA vetted Carillion yet I have heard stories,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: There was.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: A lot of questions need to be asked here. I have been told that the owners of the Sammon Group have 12 companies. Some seven of these are now closed and are in liquidation. Sammon is still operating. Is it allowed to go for another contract? If it went to the NDFA for another PPP contract, would it be allowed to tender?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: I know that. That was not right either. That needs to change.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: Carillion was vetted, however, and look at where we are today. Mr. Cahillane said the NDFA vetted Carillion to the best of its ability yet this is where we are today. This is where the problem is. The whole issue of vetting, the process of tendering and everything like that have to be looked at. It is like my colleague, Deputy Browne, said. We are promoting local work here. We are...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: I just want an answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: That is the problem. I understand that the Construction Contracts Act in place since 2016 does not apply to PPP contracts. Why? Why are small businesses not protected by that law? Please clarify whether the subcontractors are protected. It is a sham to say that the Construction Contracts Act was introduced yet a subcontractor who works on a PPP does not qualify to be covered by that law....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: I shall check the matter.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Private Partnerships - Liquidation of the Carillion Group: National Development Finance Agency and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (26 Jul 2018)

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor: It does not apply to PPPs. Is that correct?

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