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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: No. We would be discounting both the cost of servicing the site and the notional value of the land if it were private land going on the market. We would take those two figures together and discount that, but the maximum discount available is 40% of what the price might be on the market. If a house was on the market for €400,000, potentially the discount could be 40%, but that is an...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Exactly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I remind the Deputy of the shout-out I gave him very kindly on Monday.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: We gave a very big hug.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I know there is no chance of that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: The Deputy looked very comfortable.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I thank the Deputy for the questions. We need to be very careful when we talk about numbers so that in trying to make a political charge against me, members do not end up inadvertently undermining the system we have in terms of the permanent government of civil servants and Departments. If we spend money on housing and give numbers on houses delivered through a build programme, those...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I will respond to Senator Boyhan's point first. It is absolutely no problem. I want people to be assured that work has continued. It is not that nothing is happening. The NDFA has been working with the local authority to try to get the financial model right. I had my staff out there again today to see what further work can be done. I raised it with the representatives of the European...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: This is what delivers. We are for housing in the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government. We want to make sure there are no unnecessary delays or blockages. We also want to make sure we get it right. We do not want this to proceed through the various stages and processes and fail at the last minute because the financial modelling was rushed. Much has been done. The NDFA is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: It makes a significant difference to their lives. It is a nice meeting to have.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Right. That is a different meeting to have.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Of course. What we are trying to do with the assessment now is to see how we can improve it and if there are other criteria that would allow us to widen it a little bit to include more people. That work is ongoing, but it does involve engagement with the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform as it does not fall solely to my Department. I know people were worried about the loan...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I am sorry.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I could just say Eoin and Darragh if I thought members would not be offended. Can we drop the parliamentary protocol?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I am not going to be talking to myself, not in front of the committee anyway. We have had 1,000 applications for the repair and leasing scheme, RLS, as of quarter 3 of this year. One hundred agreements for lease have been signed. To date, we have had 39 solely in 2018. We know the delivery in 2017 was poor, with nine. We have 100 leased and we are working through another 100...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: We are not taking it that it is going to be on-balance sheet.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: One of the indications of that is that not all of the tier 3 bodies were told they would have to go on-balance sheet. It shows that there are ways around this that may be able to be addressed in the regulation Bill that is coming through. We continue to look at that to see what can be done in that regard. We will continue to fight that good fight. The most important message for the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Super rapids. Double down.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I beg your pardon, Chairman. I am sorry. The programme has not been shelved but the delays we are seeing are not necessarily at the on-site side. Some of the delays are in getting local authorities to use the delivery method. I hope the new procurement framework being pioneered by Dublin City Council on volumetric modular housing will open the way for other local authorities to use it as...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I thank the Deputies for that line of questions. I will try to answer all of them, as I have taken a note of them. I will begin with Deputy Ó Broin's questions and deal with the questions in the order in which they were asked. If we note quarter 3, and the delivery on the build side, it appears we will have to do a lot of heavy lifting in the fourth quarter, but that is not to give...

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