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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: No.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: I remember the first INTO conference that I attended in my capacity as the Minister for Education and Skills. This was a major issue. I needed to remind the delegates clearly that they had the power to do it within their own union, as all of the principals were members of the union.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: As Deputies Griffin and McConalogue know from their constituencies, there may be locations at which young teachers are not readily available to take up posts, particularly for short-term vacancies. There must be a certain degree of flexibility, but there is a distinction between a short-term vacancy and, for example, a maternity leave vacancy, which is typical of longer term vacancies. We...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: I do not know, but I will examine it. As there could be complications, I do not want to give a snap answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: If needs be, I will revert to the Deputy with clarification, but I am informed that the €7 million refers to the National Council for Special Education, NCSE's assessment of the additional demand between February and now, which it expects will impact on the start of the academic year.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: Yes. We do not know what it is yet.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: Yes. We have budgeted for that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: From the point of view of accessing assets for the purpose of sending someone to college, a fixed asset like a piece of machinery or property could only be used for educational purposes if it was sold. That seems to be a contradiction. This is my personal opinion and I am not a professional economist or accountant, but I am making a distinction of capital above and beyond what would be...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: The history to this goes back a long time and is probably no longer true. I have been told clearly by the Irish Creamery Milk Suppliers Association, ICMSA, and the IFA that accountancy standards for farm income and small businesses are different from what they were ten or 15 years ago. It was an urban or rural myth that PAYE creamery workers across the country could not get grants for their...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: That was never the intention.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: It would be unwise for me to go any further in this discussion, as the debate has not been concluded internally. It would be counterproductive and contradictory to force a business to close in order to send children to college. On what would those people live? It is a question of making a distinction between reserves of cash above and beyond what is necessary to run a business over the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: The pay reductions have been implemented for all of us, including Members of the Oireachtas and Ministers. These were implemented on the first payday after 1 July. The teachers need time to reflect on this and I hope they will come to a decision. I do not want to state anything which would prejudice this or interfere with the outcome. It is a matter for teachers. The Cabinet has not yet...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: Another question about young teachers was asked with regard to their position under the Haddington Road agreement which so far only affects primary school teachers. The revised proposal put forward by the Labour Relations Commission for the public service stability agreement contained a number of commitments to help newly qualified teachers secure permanent positions in the education sector....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: The courts have found we are not the employers of teachers. We pay their salary but we are not their employer. The contract of employment is between the patron of a school and the teacher. If a vacancy arises, for instance because of maternity leave, the person who makes the decision is the principal, presumably in consultation with the board of management and the patron. If they choose...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: It would be a major cultural transformation in the nature of our education system. It is set out in law in the education Acts.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: It would be a major change.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: I will read the reply given in response to a parliamentary question asked by a Deputy on this matter. It reads: Circular 31/2011 details a cascade of measures for recruitment of teachers, prioritising unemployed registered teachers over retired registered teachers and registered teachers over unregistered people. It is important to note that boards of management of schools and vocational...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: 2014 Pre-Budget Submission: Department of Education and Skills (17 Jul 2013)

Ruairi Quinn: If we have to do this, and the likelihood is that we will, although I must put a caveat on it and note it is too soon to be absolutely definite, we have enough resources to pay for the additional teachers for the rest of this year - for the first term of the 2013-14 academic year, if one likes. The numbers are approximately €7 million in salary costs for approximately 500 teachers,...

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