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Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: This is operated through the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection, rather than through the NTA.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: I will follow this up with the Department, because it is expected before the committee in the coming weeks. That is fine. We mentioned the green schools travel programme earlier. What kind of budget does the NTA have for that scheme?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: The NTA is reimbursing An Taisce. I believe it was said that it is run through An Taisce

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Does Ms Graham know how many schools that covered and their location? How many are covered in each county?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: I ask for that because I visited two primary schools in rural areas in my constituency recently, as public representatives are often asked to. There were more than 30 in the room in fifth and sixth class. I asked how many walked to school on that day and only one hand out of 31 went up. They were all being dropped to school. I am just saying it is not just urban areas where there are...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: -----but it needs to be much more ambitious. That is all I am saying. Who has a role in bus shelters? Who decides where they go and when they are installed? I am sure there is not a town or a village not looking for a bus shelter for its area. People stand in the wind and rain and the NTA tells them that the location of bus shelters depends on certain matters and that advertising must...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: There we are. The committee represents the people out there. As I said, there is not a town or a village not looking for a bus shelter. I ask the witnesses to talk me through the process. I have not brought in a list of villages.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: From whom?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is the cost €10,000, €2,000-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Some of the bus stops will be used sometimes by private operators or at other times by other operators. Does the NTA have a rule of thumb such that if 100 people a day use a bus stop, that stop will qualify for a bus shelter, or would there have to be 200 people? I know it is not a black-and-white matter and the population of the area comes into it, but the NTA must have some criteria.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Can the witnesses send us the criteria the NTA uses?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Of course.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: If, however, there are ten buses a day-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: -----pulling up at a bus stop, it is an indication that there are people there.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: The witnesses might send us something on the criteria. Is there advertising on the shelters? Does that help the cost-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: What kind of budget does the NTA have for bus shelters for last year versus next year? I am asking for an estimate. Mr. Creegan said the NTA will do more.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: If the NTA got 200 done for €1 million, at a cost per stop of €5,000, €3 million would provide for 600 bus stops. Am I in the right order?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Are the bus stops all done to a set design or does the NTA have different designs for urban areas and rural areas? Does it have a range of three or four different designs?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: Who progresses that if the NTA picks a town?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Seán Fleming: I ask the witnesses to tell us in the note how many stops the NTA has provided in each of the past couple of years. I ask them to provide detail of the NTA's budget or its plan and how many stops it has in planning. That will give us an indication as to what it might be able to do next year.

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