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Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: Okay. On the basis of our previous conversations, I take it that it was all private and none of it was Coillte.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: In fairness, it says a lot that so many members of the committee are aghast that the figure might not be true. That is precisely what we need to be planting in January. In fact, we need to be planting double that in January if we want to reach 8,000 ha per year.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: I will move to financial questions, as I am sure the Chair is glad to hear. As regards the sheep welfare scheme, notwithstanding the fact I agree with other members that we need to go much further than the €12 increase, that €12 represents a 20% increase but the allocation has only been increased by 11%. Is that because it was undersubscribed for last year or is it expected...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: The figure for the previous year is 17,700.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: Assuming people will keep the same number of sheep or increase their number, the allocation will need to be revised.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: Okay. Does the Minister have plans to review the payment rates and budget allocation for the areas of natural constraint, ANC, scheme? As he is aware, it is one of the more important and popular schemes among farmers, particularly in areas such as his county or mine. Essentially, however, it is reducing every year because inflation is eating into it. It has been the same, broadly...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: I do not have time to rehash the issue of Pillar 2 payments and the increase in co-financing. In overall terms, farmers will be looking at the payments that are most valuable and important to them, and the ANC is one such payment. It has remained static for the past four years. There was previously a domestic decision to increase the budget allocation to it but, under the Minister's...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: We are talking about farmers here. They are not cods in the context of the budget-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: -----but the Minister is treating them as cods.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: He is trying to suggest there is a 50% increase in funding for Pillar 2 payments. That is not the case. I asked him specifically about ANC.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: He stated there will be no increase under his vision. I accepted that answer. He then tried to-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: -----disseminate what is actually untrue information in respect of-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: -----Pillar 2 schemes but I asked him a specific question in respect of ANCs. He would be better off, and people would have much more respect for him as Minister, if he were to clarify the question that was asked rather than try to diverge in a way that is not correct.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: The Minister should ask farmers in his constituency if they are better off. I can tell him what the answer would be.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: As regards TB, there is a decrease of 11% in the allocation of funding. Given that the numbers are remaining static, how is the decrease justified?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: It is subhead A4. I am reading here it is-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: It is subhead A4.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: Will there any EU funding for the scheme in 2023?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: The Minister has said the TB figures have improved. Did the figures for January 2023 not show an increase on the same month last year?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: I will double-check that. I seek clarification on some figures. In administration, the training and development and incidental expenses, there is an increase of 47%.

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