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Seanad: Order of Business (24 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: There is.

Seanad: Order of Business (24 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: Deputy Varadkar is proposing it, as is Deputy Coveney.

Seanad: Order of Business (24 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: They have.

Seanad: Order of Business (24 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: Good.

Seanad: Order of Business (24 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: Oh God, no.

Seanad: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Gender Pay Gap Information) Bill 2017: Second Stage (24 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: I want to begin by commending my colleagues in the Labour Party - Senator Bacik in particular - for drafting this Bill. Sinn Féin is very happy to support the Bill this evening. I have to start with what is perhaps a negative on the commentary from the Minister of State. It is not so much on the detail, because in fairness, it is okay to express those concerns. The word that worried...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Banded Hours Contract Bill 2016: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: I thank the witnesses for their attendance and for their presentation on foot of a very useful report on the issues surrounding if-and-when contracts. The Sinn Féin Bill recommends banded contracts. It recommends six or seven bands. Do the witnesses have a view on how many bands would be useful? They may or may not know that the draft legislation the Government is working on...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Banded Hours Contract Bill 2016: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: Tesco is another example.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Banded Hours Contract Bill 2016: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: I am interested in the reference to casual work. I am concerned that if-and-when contracts will be replaced with another wide category called "casual work". Would a definition of "casual work" help or are we going down the wrong road by continuing to reference that term?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Banded Hours Contract Bill 2016: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: The finest hotel in Limerick issues all its contracts as casual contracts.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Banded Hours Contract Bill 2016: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: Is Dr. O'Sullivan suggesting that, ideally, legislation should do away with this notion of casual work or strictly define what is casual work?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Banded Hours Contract Bill 2016: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: I thank the witnesses.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Banded Hours Contract Bill 2016: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: It is important to recognise the difference the Bill has already made because, as Deputy David Cullinane pointed out, when it was introduced in the Dáil, there was no acceptance across the board that there was a problem. Following the hearings we have held, there is now cross-party acceptance that there is a significant problem that needs to be addressed. That in itself is a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Banded Hours Contract Bill 2016: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: One of the key points of the Banded Hours Contract Bill was that there were perhaps six or seven bands. I see that the Government's heads of Bill has just four bands. The first band is from one hour to ten hours. Are there any concerns about that? How effective would a Banded Hours Contract Bill need to be in order that a worker could avail of securing the hours he or she works?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Banded Hours Contract Bill 2016: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: That is an important point. We might end up with legislation that looks like it is fixing the problem but is in effect toothless. As Deputy Cullinane has said, no one from any of the groups objected to the bands that were in the Bill. It is important that whatever way we move forward - one hopes with Deputy Cullinane's Bill - that we protect the bands that are in place there in order that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Banded Hours Contract Bill 2016: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: I want to try to be constructive but I cannot be constructive without first noticing how badly the Minister of State has read the Sinn Féin Bill. I will give one example. From his own written notice here, he quotes from the Sinn Féin Bill and says these notices will have to be in English, Irish and in other languages, as required, when the Bill actually states, and I quote, "the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Banded Hours Contract Bill 2016: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: What does "may" mean, did the Minister of State not see that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Banded Hours Contract Bill 2016: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: That is okay, we all make mistakes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Banded Hours Contract Bill 2016: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: It is not totally flawed. The Minister of State's interpretation of it is totally flawed. It is outrageous but I would ask him to focus on the positives here.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Banded Hours Contract Bill 2016: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2017)

Paul Gavan: No, one cannot.

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