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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: Sorry, I am still on my time. This statement came from an agricultural worker. Just so we are clear and the witnesses are dismissing the views of the Palestinian trade unions, which have strongly supported this measure. They do not know what is in their own interests. Is that what the witnesses are saying? They do not know? This is what they are stating. They want this Bill.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: Sorry, can I cut across again? I never mentioned Hamas. I referred to an agricultural worker who said that the people of Palestine want this Bill to go through. It has nothing to do with Hamas. This is the Palestinian people on the ground. This is an agricultural worker and a union.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: Excuse me, can I just go back to my question. I never got my full answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: I just want to put this on the record; do the witnesses not believe the Palestinian people in their own interests, if they want this Bill, they are not in agreement with that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: But the Palestinian people have said-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: Misled by who?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: Some critics have claimed that this legislation will not help Palestinians and it is not warranted. I was very struck by Ms Al Tamimi’s opening comments on the hope felt from initiatives like this. Could she tell us how significant this initiative would be and how it is viewed by Palestinians?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: The reason is that they will not be able to sell the products. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: A case was filed in the European Court of Justice yesterday against the European Commission and the European Council under Article 265 of the European treaty for failure to act. Do the witnesses believe the EU is in breach of its human rights obligations, in particular regarding its obligations under the EU-Israel association agreement? Is it presently in breach of human rights?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: Does Dr. Reynolds think Ireland can be a leader here, showing Europe that this is what everyone needs to do? Can it translate that Europe will follow on from us and we are leading by example?

Written Answers — Department of Finance: Interest Rates (15 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: 126. To ask the Minister for Finance his proposals to protect mortgage holders from high interest rates. [39380/25]

Domestic, Sexual and Gender-Based Violence: Statements (10 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: I would like to acknowledge that the Minister is currently progressing legislative proposals on the guardianship rights of those who have murdered their spouse as well as the disclosure of counselling notes. It is important that we get the proposals right and it is welcome that they are progressing through the Oireachtas. I am delighted to hear that the Minister is visiting refuges, but...

Public Accounts Committee: 2023 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
Chapter 3 - Vote accounting and budget management
(10 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: I thank all the witnesses for coming in today. To get it clear in my head, the difference between the Mr. Moloney's department and the Department of Finance is his Department has oversight of any money that comes out. Could Mr. Moloney give me a briefing on this?

Public Accounts Committee: 2023 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
Chapter 3 - Vote accounting and budget management
(10 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: The Department looks after oversight. Is that its main role?

Public Accounts Committee: 2023 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
Chapter 3 - Vote accounting and budget management
(10 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: I want to discuss Vote 29 - IT and procurement overspends. Mr. Moloney will be aware that we had the Arts Council before us a few weeks ago. It had effectively wasted €6.7 million in taxpayers' money on a failed IT system. If the Department is involved in oversight, how could this have happened at its hand? How was this not sorted out before it ever came to us?

Public Accounts Committee: 2023 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
Chapter 3 - Vote accounting and budget management
(10 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: Again, Mr. Moloney's Department is responsible for oversight. In all the years there was an issue regarding the Arts Council, was there no oversight by the Department to see where that €7 million went? At the time, going across all the Departments as well, the Residential Tenancies Board and RTÉ were also examples of IT projects. Is the vendor that was used for those specific...

Public Accounts Committee: 2023 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
Chapter 3 - Vote accounting and budget management
(10 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: If Mr. Moloney could, that would be great. I would like to know if that vendor is still in use across other Departments.

Public Accounts Committee: 2023 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
Chapter 3 - Vote accounting and budget management
(10 Jul 2025)

Cathy Bennett: I find this very difficult to understand when it was such an issue and such as waste of money. The Department is responsible for oversight. I find it difficult to understand that this IT provider would still be in use and right across other Departments. Does Mr. Moloney find that difficult to understand?

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