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Written Answers — Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agriculture Schemes (7 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: 469. To ask the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine the number of applications approved under the reconstitution and under planting scheme to date; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [49049/21]

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Business of Joint Committee (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: Apologies have been received from Deputy Martin Browne. Members now have the option of being physically present in the committee room or joining via Microsoft Teams with the proviso that, for meetings held in public session, this must be done from their offices in Leinster House. Members may not participate from outside the parliamentary precincts. If joining by Microsoft Teams, they...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: The purpose of this meeting is to discuss EU Regulation 2019/6 on veterinary medicinal products, which will apply in all EU members states' jurisdictions from 28 January 2022. The joint committee published a report on the regulation of veterinary medicines earlier this year. It put forward ten recommendations, observations and conclusions and highlighted issues regarding responsible...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: Dr. Corkery is right in the question Senator Paul Daly asked him. We are talking about Northern Ireland, which is now outside a harmonised EU structure. The Senator asked how we will deal with that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: The Deputy asked a specific question. On the day of a herd test, will he be able to get a prescription for what would be considered herd management for the year?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: The vet is legally entitled to do it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: The prescription, yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: We will stick to veterinary medicines.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: Okay, Deputy Carthy. I call Senator Lombard.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: I have a supplementary question and then I will let the Senator back in. Surely the post mortem facilities in factories are a far better mechanism for ensuring that the dosing regime on farms is working, rather than another big layer of bureaucracy.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: Dr. Corkery said a minute ago that he wants to see if these medicines are working. Surely the post mortem is the ultimate test.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: One gets the liver and the lungs and one will know-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: I am a farmer. When the liver and the lungs are perfect, one will know that one's testing regime is working and is effective. A great deal more use should be made of post mortems. You are introducing regulations to make sure the dosing is working, and we can use post mortems to show that it is working at farm level.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: I apologise for interrupting you, Senator Lombard.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: Okay. I call Deputy Flaherty.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: Mr. Collins might send the answers to Deputy Flaherty's questions back through the committee secretariat and we can distribute them to members. I call Deputy Michael Collins.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: I will get to the non-members when I have finished with the members of the committee. We have extra time today so everyone will get an ample opportunity to question the witnesses. Deputy Ring is the next member to speak.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: With respect, Mr. Doyle, the role has changed. Currently, such persons can advise a herd owner as to what medicines to use. Under the regulation, they will be dispensing rather than advising. The role will change under this regulation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: I seek some clarification on a number of points. Mr. Doyle said that it will be possible to get a 12-month prescription.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Regulation on Veterinary Medicinal Products (Resumed): Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (6 Oct 2021)

Jackie Cahill: Yes. The farmer is not restricted to the vet who carries out the herd test. He or she can use any vet who has knowledge of his or her herd.

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