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- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: I did not write the 2011 memo.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: It was written by the Department. Mr. Watt was a Secretary General in the Department where the Minister was furnished with a copy of this memo, incidentally. Leaving that aside-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: The memo was not written by me and was very clear that there were residents who would have similar potential claims. There was an estimate, which Mr. Watt says is probably too high. It is reasonable for any person to look at this to say that there were certainly analogous residents would have had a similar claim, but that there was no proactive work done by the Department. Rather, if we...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: Does Mr. Watt accept that we need to resolve it and to establish whether or not there were people who would have qualified had they applied under the scheme or had appealed, that their appeal would have been upheld but, because they did not, they simply accepted the judgment of the HSE, which was that they did not qualify. They, therefore, did not make any application. It would be unfair if...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: If there are, what will then happen?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: There is a strong possibility that that is the case.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: The memo was not conjecture. It says “would”, does it not?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: Does Mr. Watt understand the point we are making-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: ------in that there is a potential unfairness here which may need to be resolved. That trawl needs to be done and if there are people who, through no fault of their own may have ended up in that situation. These were people with disabilities who probably would not have had, or their families would not have had, the means to challenge this and just accepted what the HSE said. It would be...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: Mr. Watt has a responsibility to do that, I would say.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: You did comment on it.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: I wish to deal with the issue of people in private nursing homes. I am reading from the 2011 memo. We asked the Department to submit to the committee the memos that were given to Ministers in 2011 and 2016 as well as the notes from 2017. The Secretary General stated that releasing those documents was a matter for the Government, which it is. Can we write to the Minister and ask that they...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: The Attorney General's memo stated that the health boards had a dual strategy of public nursing homes in the first instance and, if those were not available, private ones.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: Mr. Watt will agree that it was like a lottery system. If a medical card holder happened to get a public nursing home place, he or she was compensated, but if he or she was one of the unlucky medical card holders who had sought public nursing home places but, because none was available, ended up in private nursing homes, there was no compensation for him or her, through no fault of his or...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: Now Mr. Watt has got to the heart of the issue. It was unfair. That is our point.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: I certainly did not get any sense that this was unfair from the Attorney General's report. In fact, the reverse was the case and it was described as sound.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: He was referring to the legal strategy.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: I accept that.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: I am not trying to put words in Mr. Watt's mouth. We are in agreement that, at the time, there were those with medical card entitlements who had an option of public nursing home places if they could find any and, if they could not, private nursing home places. However, some people had no choice but to go into private nursing homes and to be supported by the health boards because there were...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Home Charges: Department of Health (15 Feb 2023)
David Cullinane: The assertion that proceedings should be fully defended is also questionable, given that most of these cases were settled when they reached the point of discovery. Does the statement that they should be "fully defended" stack up in light of how cases were settled before or at a point of discovery? This does not suggest "fully defended" to me. "Fully defended" means going to court and...