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Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(9 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: I welcome the witnesses. I note Ms McPhillips in her opening remarks stated that the Criminal Assets Bureau, CAB, had collected €1.6 million under the proceeds or crime legislation and €2 million in Revenue seizures, and assets of €64.9 million were frozen in 2019, €53 million from crypto-currency, compared to €8.4 million in 2018. Have there been specific...

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(9 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: Ms McPhillips said there were 31 cases in 2019. Is that the largest to date brought forward by CAB?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(9 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: I would like to focus on two other items. In the Appropriation Accounts there are a number of headings detailing different programmes from Ms McPhillips's Department. When she is corresponding with the committee, I would appreciate if she could give us more information on each of those. It is those mainly where there are significant variations. If Ms McPhillips could detail those because...

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(9 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: What about the other four?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(9 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: Is that tranche of contracts something that would recur annually because the Department is waiting on the new framework? Is that more or less how that happens?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(9 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: No. Obviously, not.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(9 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: I would hope there are procedures in place to try to minimise that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(9 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: It is a sizeably amount of money and it has been flagged. Regarding the justice and policing transformation programme, I note there was an estimation provision of €10 million and only €6.1 million was spent. Can Ms McPhillips elaborate on why that was underspent?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(9 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: There is a considerable underspend under crime prevention measures. A estimated provision of €1.19 million was due to be spent for 2019 but the outturn was €411,000. What was the discrepancy there? Why was the full budget not spent?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(9 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: The intention was to spend that provision. Spending under that category would impact many communities across the country.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(9 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: Thank you.

Written Answers — Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection: Social Welfare Benefits (3 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: 19. To ask the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection if she will review the means-testing arrangements for the State pension qualified adult payment; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [40086/20]

Public Accounts Committee (2 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: I thank the Chairman for his statement. I accept his apology to the committee and I thank him for it. There is no doubt, however, that the tweet was hurtful and that it was a glorification of what happened at Narrow Water. The Chairman's words from when we started our work ring true, namely, that we need to leave party politics at the door. We are here on behalf of the Oireachtas to...

Public Accounts Committee (2 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: I ask the Comptroller and Auditor General about the delay in the 2018 accounts. Is there a particular reason for that?

Public Accounts Committee (2 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: That is something we can take up with them when they are here.

Public Accounts Committee (2 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: The delay was on the Department's end.

Public Accounts Committee (2 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: I suggest we do that. It might help when Caranua is here for us to have been aware of that.

Public Accounts Committee (2 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: This is similar to the question I raised the previous time we were discussing this issue. I note in the correspondence reference to the passage of the residential institutions statutory fund (distribution) Bill. I am not sure at what stage that is at or when to expect it in the House. However, I note they say it will not impact on the operational process of Caranua. Ultimately, our...

Public Accounts Committee (2 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: I am proposing that a number of organisations be invited to come in and I will email them to the clerk directly but I ask the Comptroller and Auditor General for his information on a number of organisations on the list of organisations he provided to the committee. Could he give a brief explainer on the local loans fund and the heritage fund, because depending on his answer it might be of...

Public Accounts Committee (2 Dec 2020)

Cormac Devlin: Who manages that?

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