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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: You do not need to apologise. I think when you look back at this committee, even you will find that those words are really empty and meaningless. I think everybody else understands that. It is just-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: Well, the public-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: The thing is, Mr. Bakhurst, you are making a choice. It seems to be one rule for RTÉ and another for Ryan Tubridy. I do not disagree with your pronouncement that he has a moral obligation. I just do not understand how that same moral obligation does not pertain to RTÉ.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: I am not finished-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: Yet you come in, telling the Government and this committee that if you do not receive interim funding to the tune of €34.5 million, and receive it by next spring, RTÉ will be insolvent. I think the reality is that that is primarily your doing.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: Your doing.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: Because every public representative believes that it is imperative that as elected representatives they ensure that the moneys are spent properly. RTÉ is hiding documentation. I am not sure who it is that you are trying to protect or what it is that you are trying to protect, but we need the documentation. We are going to compel RTÉ to provide it. All you are actually doing is...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: There is no response.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: Mr. Bakhurst, Ryan Tubridy waived privilege over that said meeting. We heard contrary evidence in relation to-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: -----the voluntary exit-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: Sorry, Mr. Bakhurst. The voluntary exit package information is required. I understand there is an investigation ongoing, but that information should be before this committee. It is public moneys, no matter how you wish to see it.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: On a point of clarity, Mr. Fives said that less than €20 million had been set aside to resolve the issues. Is that €20 million, or whatever the figure is, part of RTÉ's cash reserve of €68 million or is it in addition to that?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: It is part of it.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: Thank you.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: It is really €48 million.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: The clock should be stopped.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is Ms Mullooly a registered legal practice?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is it an independent legal practice? Do you represent others?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: No-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Verona Murphy: So, she is registered as a legal practice with the Law Society. Does Ms Mullooly have a professional indemnity?

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