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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: May I ask-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: I get that. I have another question that may be relevant. Instead of going to the HSE, could we not just ask the Minister what the rationale was for the directive?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: Yes, I understand that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: I welcome the witnesses. They will be glad to hear that despite their loitering outside the door, they will be taking a break soon enough because of divisions in the Dáil. The Department has been given a clear audit opinion although there are a few queries that I would like to highlight. As the Chairman mentioned, I am Chair of the Committee on Children and Youth Affairs, so much of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: Is it the Department? I apologise to Mr. Smyth because I was of the view that it pertained to Tusla. Has the matter been resolved satisfactorily? Is there anything to be learned from the process? Our guests may start their responses and then I will contribute again.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: I understand.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: How quickly was it was picked up?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: With regard to the honesty box issue, which is separate from the petty cash issue, I understand it was subject to an investigation by An Garda Síochána. Is that matter concluded?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: That is regrettable under the circumstances given the outcome. I will talk very briefly about procurement before I move on to Oberstown. From my experience, I have no doubt that every single Department and body that has appeared before this committee over many years has had procurement issues, overruns, underestimations, instances of non-compliance with procurement rules, instances of not...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: Oberstown is located in a rural area near Lusk in north County Dublin. The town has a population of 10,000. It is a large town by the Chairman's standards. It is approximately 10 km north of Swords, so it is perhaps 12 km or 13 km north of Dublin Airport. It is a very rural location, although it is very well served by a former national road that would get one there pretty quickly. One...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: All the doors and frames were different sizes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: Was there any attempt on behalf of the Department to recoup any of that? Was it able to do so?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: Under A4, there is €2.1 million relating to-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: Before Dr. Lynch moves on, can we go back to the €775,000? I am not entirely sure what his answer was on that. There was a negotiated settlement. As a State, we expended €775,000 correcting a contractor's mistake. Is it established that it was the contractor's mistake?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: Did the State cover the €775,000?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: Is Dr. Lynch confident as the Accounting Officer that the taxpayer got value for money?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: I am sorry for interrupting.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: I am pleased to hear that. I will move on because I am sure my time is limited at this stage. I refer to community childcare subvention, CCS, and community education training supports, CETS. I fully understand, appreciate and value what is being done and how it is being done. I wish we could treble it or quadruple the subvention and supports. The Department seems to be underestimating...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: That is still in October.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Alan Farrell: We were all talking about the IT system a few years back. Forgive me as I have not read the note so I am not sure if it is included in that. Did we manage to achieve an on-budget delivery for that IT system build? What was the outlay in the end?

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