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Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: What was the Deputy's next question?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: I am loath to stop Professor McConkey. I call Deputy O'Dowd.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: Does anybody else wish to come in?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: I want to bring in Professor Giesecke.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: The next speaker is Deputy Ó Cathasaigh.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: I can come back to you in a minute if you want.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: Does anybody else want to contribute on this issue? Is there anything like that in Sweden or Germany?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: The next speaker is Deputy Duncan Smith.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: The sound is quite bad.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: There is considerable interference on the line. Will the other three witnesses temporarily mute their microphones, please? That might be the problem. Go ahead, Professor Giesecke. Deputy Shortall was asking what it means in concrete terms for the people who are over 60 years or medically compromised.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: I have a quick follow-up question. Would that testing and isolation regime that Dr. Ryan described equally have to be applied to those crossing the border in the absence of it being applied to those arriving in the ports or airports of Northern Ireland from the UK mainland?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: Absolutely. That requires them to have a testing and isolation regime in place between Northern Ireland and the UK mainland, does it not?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: Yes, please.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: I am sorry to have to cut you short again, Dr. Ryan. My thanks to Deputy Shanahan as well. I ask the three remaining speakers, who should have ten minutes each, to limit themselves to eight minutes so that we can conclude on time. The first speaker is Deputy O'Rourke. My thanks to Deputies for their understanding.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: Professor Giesecke has indicated he wishes to come in.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: Am I correct that Professor Giesecke's position is that even if someone has been identified as a contact that he disagrees in compelling them to present for testing?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: Yes, but I refer to the broader issue of compelling someone to present for testing. There is a phenomenon in Ireland where a relatively concerning proportion of people have not been presenting the second time for seven-day testing. Does Professor Giesecke think that should be made compulsory or would it be a breach of a person's right to bodily autonomy?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: In Sweden, are certain groups of people required to present for a test? If, for example, somebody is identified as having Covid-19, are his or her close contacts required to present for testing or is it left to them to be notified and to present?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: I thank Professor Giesecke. Is there any other point he wishes to comment on?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Covid-19: Strategic Options for Government Plan to Eliminate Community Transmission (23 Sep 2020)

Michael McNamara: I have a quick follow-up to Deputy Durkan's question. We are seeing fewer ICU beds being taken up and fewer deaths. Is that just because it is a younger cohort who are at issue or is it also because treatments have improved? From a medical perspective, have we learned and have there been any improvements in the treatments such that fewer people progress to requiring ICU capacity?

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