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Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I have to suspend the meeting. A vote has been called in the Chamber and therefore, members are released to cast their vote. We are at the end of the session anyway and I thank the witnesses for staying so late. I know it can be hard to do an evening session, so I do appreciate their attendance. When we resume, we will start with the next session.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: That is okay.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I welcome Ms Denyse Campbell, Mr. Paul Gallagher and Mr. Tim Fenn from the Irish Hotels Federation, IHF; Mr. Eoghan O’Mara Walsh from the Irish Tourism Industry Confederation, ITIC; and Mr. Adrian Cummins from the Restaurants Association of Ireland, RAI. Before we begin, I will explain some limitations to parliamentary privilege and the practice of the Houses as regards reference...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Votes willing. We are doing this between votes.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Deputy Healy-Rae-----

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I thank Deputy Michael Healy-Rae. His time was running out and I wanted to give our witnesses a chance to respond to some of his points. I do not know who wants to go first.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Is Deputy Durkan happy enough with that?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Do any Deputies wish to come back in?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: When it comes to chapter 8, there is a discussion around pension entitlements. Mr. Cummins dealt with the extra cost of that to the employer in his opening statement. Pension entitlements will be an ongoing issue that will probably be of an increasing importance, given the demographics. What do industry stakeholders think the options are, considering that we must have some supports for...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: It is a hard sell when you are 18 or 19. We have reached the end of our session. I thank the witnesses. We have gone quite late with it, which was the result of votes being called. I thank the witnesses for their forbearance.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Health (Amendment) Bill 2022: Department of Health (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I welcome our guests. The progress reports were mentioned. We are on our fourth progress report at the moment. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Health (Amendment) Bill 2022: Department of Health (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Am I right in thinking that is the last progress report due from that panel?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Health (Amendment) Bill 2022: Department of Health (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: That group will not publish another report.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Health (Amendment) Bill 2022: Department of Health (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Okay. Will a similar report be compiled?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Health (Amendment) Bill 2022: Department of Health (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: The expert panel is comprised of people who are working in the industry. What will replace that level of engagement for the Department as it works through this?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Health (Amendment) Bill 2022: Department of Health (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Health (Amendment) Bill 2022: Department of Health (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: There is no replacement to provide engagement with the sector.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Health (Amendment) Bill 2022: Department of Health (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Those reports are helpful and Ms Casey is correct that they are broad in their scope. It was an expert panel, and a similar situation pertains for the Department in respect of progress reports. They are not legislators so they are not necessarily linking the various packages of work to legislation. It is very hard for me to glean from the report how many Bills are in the mix if we are to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Health (Amendment) Bill 2022: Department of Health (23 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: That is this Bill.

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