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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: So there are 500 in the system waiting over five years?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Okay. It is still an extraordinary length of time.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: What are the typical three or four issues that are pertaining to those cases? Would it be a case of having to verify the situation in which they left in their country of origin, or what is it? I am trying to understand why a case would take more than five years, never mind nine years.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Is that the 48 or the 500?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: I understand that.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: In a system that is under huge pressure, where people are trying to manage and do their best, those figures are absolutely extraordinary. What is the longest-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: They are not in IPAS accommodation.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: What is the longest period of time that somebody is in direct provision?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Could Ms McPhillips explain this for our benefit? If your case is processed and you fail, you can appeal then to the appeals tribunal. Is it one appeal you have a chance with?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: If you fail that then, it has to be the court?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: What are those processes?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Appeals were down to five months in 2023.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Okay. I want to ask about the numbers in the system not processed at the moment. Does Ms McPhillips have a ballpark figure for that? I know it will be a combination of a number of figures.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: That is a huge number.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Has the Department got adequate staff to deal with that?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: The Department has in the region of 400 at the moment, is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: What is the target again?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: I see that. It was 143 in 2019.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: I see those figures in the notes. What timescale has been set to try to get it up to 480?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Will those positions mainly be deployed to clear some of the backlogs in the system that we have just spoken about?

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