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Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: No.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: As I have said, the two election campaigns for which I am revising my election expenses are for 2016 and 2020. If any further change needs to be made at this point, it would be.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: Again, the donations referred to by the Deputy are the cost of labour and the use of a van. They were all attributed to Fine Gael Dublin Central, not to me.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: Yes, I believe I did indicate that was the case.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: No. That would have been to the Fine Gael national organisation.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: It would have been a donation, as I have said, to the national party.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: We are talking about different things here. One went to Fine Gael Dublin Central. The other was to the Fine Gael nationally.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: I am aware what the aggregate is, but I am sure the Deputy is correct. They went to different party entities. As I have said from the very beginning, one was the sale of the tickets and the other was the commercial value we are attributing to postering and the use of a van.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: My understanding here is that the value of the money referred to by the Deputy is below the personal threshold. As I have said, and I will go back to the point I made, one was for Fine Gael Dublin Central and the other was for tickets that went to Fine Gael nationally.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: The €430 figure the Deputy referred to is the commercial use of a corporate van.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: The Deputy is adding together two personal figures and a corporate figure. They are different. The two personal figures relate to the sale of tickets that I brought forward myself, and the commercial value of postering, which Mr. Stone paid for. The other figure the Deputy refers to is for a corporate donation that came from the Designer Group, that corporate donation being the commercial...

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: Just to conclude-----

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: -----not only are we talking about funding that went to two different entities, which are Fine Gael Dublin Central and Fine Gael nationally, we are also talking about them being paid from two different people.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: Two different entities.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: The Deputy cannot make repeat assertions and assume they have or may have a truth here. As I said a moment ago, of the three different figures the Deputy has referred to, the figure of €430 is for the commercial use of a van-----

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: -----which was a corporate donation from the Dublin Designer Group, a portion of which will be refunded. The other two figures referred to by the Deputy are personal figures. Those personal figures are under the donation threshold-----

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: It is important to be clear about that point, because an impression is being created that the figures being brought forward are in some way-----

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: I thank the Deputy. I agree that ethics and standards do matter. It is why I am so disappointed to be in this position, having to explain who put up my posters, having to explain I assumed it happened on a voluntary basis, and having to take up the time of the House making a justification for it, let alone having to revise my expenses statements with SIPO. Regarding the point the Deputy...

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: I thank Deputy Nash. I appreciate his recognition of the value I place on integrity and standards. I am so aware of the issues I have created due to postering activity that happened on my behalf at election time. That is the issue. It concerns who put up my posters, assuming it happened on a voluntary basis. On the point the Deputy put to me, I thank him again for recognising this was...

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: -----and my amended expenses I will make available.

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