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Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: No.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: The chairperson of the commission has to be a lay person. I would not call that balance.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: I am just a plaintiff, though a very successful one.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: We said that there has not been appropriate consultation.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: I am backing the professionals. It is not a closed shop.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: The Minister is getting very ratty. He should have a biscuit.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: There is a deal.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: Perhaps a little unusually, I am not greatly distressed by the Government's phraseology in this section as it seems to be perfectly reasonable. There are four cardinal points, with the first being that appointments should be made on merit. The next objective would be that there would be an equality of men and women. The third point is that diversity should be reflected and the final very...

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: It certainly did and the Minister is right in that respect. I was thinking of context and it is the most extreme example I can think of where injustice was created because somebody could not have their case heard in the Irish language. If we want to encourage the Irish language, it is important to pay due respect to it. I am not saying all judges must speak Irish, as that would go a bit...

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: The Bill does not provide that somebody should be disbarred because for health reasons. It merely mentions health as a factor to be taken into account. I remember during the Sallins mail train case, the counsel for the defendants alleged that the judge was asleep but it turned out that he was dead. That was a pretty good example. I think Senator Ruane has made a very good argument in...

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: I can talk about it because he has not withdrawn it yet.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: I think it is an excellent amendment. If the Senator allows it to stand, I will support it strongly because it would mutilate the capacity of the lay members of the commission.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: That is like the fellow in the Sallins mail train case.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: What have the Defence Forces got to do with it?

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: May I seek clarification?

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: The Cathaoirleach has said that if amendment No. 13 is passed, we cannot move some of the other ones. Surely we can have a discussion on the others.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: They fall. Yes, I see, but we can have a discussion.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: Immensely.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: My amendment No. 20 follows the recommendation of the GRECO report in stating that the chairperson shall be the Chief Justice. It is perfectly reasonable that the chairperson be the Chief Justice, the most eminent jurist in the land, somebody with a lot of experience and understanding of the situation. Earlier in the debate reference was made to taxi drivers. I cannot imagine taxi drivers...

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Jul 2018)

David Norris: Can the Senator show me a taxi union that has-----

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