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Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Completion of the Examination of the Report and Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly and Preparation of a Draft Report in accordance with the Terms of Reference of the Joint Committee (13 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: -----people's lives have been voted away by this committee.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Completion of the Examination of the Report and Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly and Preparation of a Draft Report in accordance with the Terms of Reference of the Joint Committee (13 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: The Deputy would be right on that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Completion of the Examination of the Report and Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly and Preparation of a Draft Report in accordance with the Terms of Reference of the Joint Committee (13 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: I am just here to make my points.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Statements by Committee Members on Recommendations oif Citizens' Assembly (6 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: On a point of order, whether what Deputy McGrath has to say is correct or not, we are all equal members of the committee. The Chairman gets the chance to make her view known. I do not take the view she is impartial or required not to have a view on the eighth amendment. I would have thought you would get a chance, the same as everybody else, to rebut what Deputy McGrath says. That is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Statements by Committee Members on Recommendations oif Citizens' Assembly (6 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: You are interjecting in your own interest. As I said, I do not want to fall out with you over this.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Statements by Committee Members on Recommendations oif Citizens' Assembly (6 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: I understand that but if we all did that, there would be chaos.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Statements by Committee Members on Recommendations oif Citizens' Assembly (6 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: I was hoping to hear other people but if I am the last person to indicate------

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Statements by Committee Members on Recommendations oif Citizens' Assembly (6 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: Yes, unless any-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Statements by Committee Members on Recommendations oif Citizens' Assembly (6 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: I would like to address the issue of the committee processes first because in many ways the process dictated much that followed, and one can only really understand the content of the committee in the light of the processes. As I have said before, I believe that the committee failed to check against its own majority bias and that, as a result, a whole swathe of the relevant issues went...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Statements by Committee Members on Recommendations oif Citizens' Assembly (6 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: Some witnesses would not even say whether or how often they had been involved in taking other people's lives. There was a remarkable tendency of people who, the public might think, favour just limited abortion from an expert perspective not to want to limit the scope or the definition of the disabilities involved. They did not want to see things confined to so-called foetal cases, although...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Statements by Committee Members on Recommendations oif Citizens' Assembly (6 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: I thank the Chairman. I appreciate that. I noted the comment about Denmark. So much could be said about that. It is not just the Irish Government; Deputy McGrath at first in his comment was too charitable to the Danish ambassador. The Danish ambassador did not point out that 133 scanned babies were aborted with Down's syndrome, compared with four who went on to be born. I never said it...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Statements by Committee Members on Recommendations oif Citizens' Assembly (6 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: I am nearly finished if you do not mind indulging me. This might be the last chance-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Statements by Committee Members on Recommendations oif Citizens' Assembly (6 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: I appreciate that. Again, very little attention was paid to mental health or to the fact that in Britain the vast majority of abortions take place on the mental health ground. However, we heard clearly in the committee that there is no evidence that can be adduced that abortion improves women's mental health. If anything, there may be a low to moderate risk of adverse mental health...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Statements by Committee Members on Recommendations oif Citizens' Assembly (6 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: Could I raise a point of order?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Statements by Committee Members on Recommendations oif Citizens' Assembly (6 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: I believe you will give me an opportunity to respond in a moment to two wrongful accusations.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Statements by Committee Members on Recommendations oif Citizens' Assembly (6 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: That is fake news from Sinn Féin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Statements by Committee Members on Recommendations oif Citizens' Assembly (6 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: I will confine myself to the accusations made against me and not the substance of what Deputy O'Reilly had to say with which I would obviously disagree. Regarding Termination for Medical Reasons, not only was I here for the entire formal presentation but I spoke to the representatives outside before going in and I passed them a note explaining that I had to leave. I had to drive to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Statements by Committee Members on Recommendations oif Citizens' Assembly (6 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: I did not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Statements by Committee Members on Recommendations oif Citizens' Assembly (6 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: I did not say on the committee.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Statements by Committee Members on Recommendations oif Citizens' Assembly (6 Dec 2017)

Rónán Mullen: I thank the Chair.

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