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Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: Are you confident, on your side, about the figures?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: I will go back to the claims. In terms of a progress report on the claims, it was mentioned that more than 2,000 were outstanding. What level of progress is there as regards resolved versus unresolved? Will you give us a snapshot of where we are with that? Of the claims that were lodged by the contractor, how many have been resolved versus those that have not?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: If there is such an outstanding array of claims, how can we then be confident about where the final figure will land? We cannot, really.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: I understand.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: It is also likely that they will succeed in some of those claims. That is also likely.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: Of those that-----

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: Of those that are resolved - I know the €15 million plus figure - what percentage of the claims were successful versus those that were not, of those that have gone through that process?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: If they get 6% of the outstanding €800 million that is-----

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: I know.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: I understand.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: I am caught for time. On legal costs so far, how much have we spent on legal costs defending our claims?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: I am caught for time but might get a chance to come in again later. I will go briefly to Children's Health Ireland to finish on a different note. When this hospital is operational next year, will CHI give us a sense of what it will do for children's health? Will there be a seismic change in treatments and waiting lists? We need to get some sense of where we are with this. Obviously, the...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: I appreciate it. I thank Ms Nugent for her response. I can see the passion coming through and I thank her for indulging that. It is important to see that side of the whole project as well.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: I very much look forward to it becoming operational.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: I thank everyone for staying with us this long. It is appreciated. I will go back to the big picture in terms of the opening of the hospital. Not to put words in Mr. Gunning's mouth, he indicated earlier that he has little or no confidence in the contractor. I am paraphrasing there. The opening date that Ms Nugent has given us of June of next year is predicated on the handover of the...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: I understand. I am caught for time. The update that was received yesterday evening confirmed the September handover-----

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: -----but Mr. Gunning has not interrogated the detail.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: When was the last update in terms of a date and what was that date? When did the contractor previously indicate a date?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: As we draw closer, Mr. Gunning will be hoping that there will not be too much movement.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Séamus McGrath: Agreed.

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