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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: A vote has been called in the Seanad. Our Senators may wish to leave for a few moments. I thank Deputy Smith, who has raised many important issues. I call on Professor Lynch first this time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: I thank Professor Lynch for raising the point about commuting care, which is often lost or overlooked.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: There is a clear recommendation in the assembly document on that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: Mr. Dunne wants to come in on respite, specifically on recommendation No. 7 of the assembly document.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: Senators will return to the meeting in a moment. In the meantime, I call Deputy McAuliffe.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: I thank Deputy McAuliffe for his practical questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: Sure. I am conscious of the time, though, and I want to bring in our other witnesses.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: We appreciate Deputy McAuliffe's holding the fort while the Senators were detained.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: I might see if another voice wishes to come in on this - Ms Hughes and maybe Ms Duffy?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: Sure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: I thank Ms Hughes. I call on Professor Lynch, and then we may go back to Ms Duffy and Mr. Dunne.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: I thank Professor Lynch. Mr. Dunne or Ms Duffy might wish to respond to the points Deputy McAuliffe made.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: Ms Duffy will be in demand.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: The Deputy could never do that. This is an interesting discussion. It goes to the heart of the issue with which the citizens' assembly was grappling and with which we are now grappling, that is, how we can provide the level of human care we are anxious to ensure remains while still ensuring those who are providing the care are themselves cared for and have decent contracts of employment....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: Answering those questions will be no easy task. Senator Higgins has raised a range of issues.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: They certainly were not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: Really?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: The Senator might follow up on that offline. That is an interesting one.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: I thank Senator Higgins. I have one final question and then I will go back to each person for a final comment. I am conscious that we have kept the witnesses for more than two hours. I thank all of the witnesses. This has been a really fascinating and important discussion. I want to come back to how we get to the implementation of those key recommendations that we are talking about,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jun 2022)

Ivana Bacik: That included my follow-up question. That is very helpful.

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