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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: The witnesses talked about where that process has not worked according to the way it is set out. Will they expand on that a little? I am interested in particular in where there are legal interactions with compensators or PIAB and in what those legal costs are.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I do not mean to cut across Ms Leonard, but is she saying that where the system does not work, it is because the compensator has not stated a loss of earnings and not because it has not reported?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Ms Leonard is confident that is happening.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Can I get an answer on legal costs?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I get all that, but is the Department accruing legal costs in this process?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Does the Department have a timeline for that review?

Written Answers — Department of Health: Mental Health Services (1 Dec 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: 361. To ask the Minister for Health if he will provide a breakdown of security costs associated with the HSE facility (details supplied) from 2019 to 2022 inclusive, including the projected cost for the remainder of 2022; if he will set out in detail the decorum security services provided at that cost; the name(s) of the security firm(s) providing the services, and details of any tendering...

Written Answers — Department of Health: Mental Health Services (1 Dec 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: 362. To ask the Minister for Health if any other HSE mental health facilities in Cork and Kerry, aside from (details supplied) are subject to security costs and, if they are, if he will provide detail on those, name of service, location, amount of donation, rationale for this service need; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [60108/22]

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report: Irish Fiscal Advisory Council (30 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: All those present in the room are asked to exercise personal responsibility to protect themselves and others from the risk of contracting Covid-19. I welcome Mr. Sebastian Barnes, Dr. Adele Bergin, Mr. Alessandro Giustiniani, Professor Michael McMahon, Ms Dawn Holland and Dr. Eddie Casey from the Irish Fiscal Advisory Council. Before we begin, I must explain some limitations to...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report: Irish Fiscal Advisory Council (30 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I do not think we are meant to call it the rainy day fund any more. I think it is meant to be the resilience fund.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report: Irish Fiscal Advisory Council (30 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: We all know what Mr. Barnes means. I am just being pedantic.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report: Irish Fiscal Advisory Council (30 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I might ask my questions now. Helpfully, Mr. Barnes referred to the 5% spending rule. I was interested in one paragraph in the council's opening statement, which I hope we can discuss in more detail. It states: This assumes that the Government sticks to its 5% spending rule as planned. However, we estimate that current spending increases in 2024 and 2025 under those plans would not...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report: Irish Fiscal Advisory Council (30 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: We would be talking about a 6% rule.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report: Irish Fiscal Advisory Council (30 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Okay. I want to move presently to the council's paper on the Commission on Taxation and Welfare.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report: Irish Fiscal Advisory Council (30 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Is that possible? I presume this operates like indexation insofar as it is not binding but rather is a benchmark. Is that the way Mr. Barnes envisages it in legislation?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report: Irish Fiscal Advisory Council (30 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: That is interesting. I think of Irish Governments as particularly resistant to anything that constrains their political power in terms of budgets, but that is a good point. Staying with that issue the council's submission refers to the Government’s forecasting three years ahead. Obviously, this committee has been tasked with that medium-term budgeting of three to five years ahead....

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report: Irish Fiscal Advisory Council (30 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: To be clear, is Mr. Barnes saying he cannot see a plan in place or, not to be too cynical, is it possible that there is only a three-year plan in place?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report: Irish Fiscal Advisory Council (30 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I want to come to Sláintecare in a minute.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report: Irish Fiscal Advisory Council (30 Nov 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Of how you were going to make up that €2 billion.

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