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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: This refers to editorial decision-making. Who is the editorial decision made by? Are we back to Mr. Lynch?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: Who is?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: It is Mr. Lynch at this point in time. Therefore, really, all the bluster that Ms Ní Raghallaigh has come in here with about what she is going to do is only bluster, is it not? The witnesses have exposed RTÉ among them with a massive bill for compensation to someone they assert as having done nothing wrong. They have not just thrown them all under the bus, they have backed over...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: So, Mr. Lynch will resign. He is going to confirm today that he will resign when that happens because as sure as night follows day, that is going to happen.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: I am sorry, Chair, we need to clarify that. Is Mr. Lynch saying he will resign and be accountable?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: Well, then, talk is cheap.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: I want to ask Mr. Robert Shortt on behalf of the good staff, or the ordinary staff, of RTÉ, who are all talented, what he considers to be an appropriate sanction, based on what he is hearing today, or what is going to go on, and the Grant Thornton report. Does he believe he is going to get accountability from this process?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: What does Mr. Shortt believe it should look like?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: I appreciate that, and I can see from Mr. Shortt's face through this whole thing that this is painful. I can just imagine. It is the deceit, and the whole thing was designed to deceive staff and make them believe that they had to take pay cuts because the top talent, as they were referred to previously, had taken them. At the same time, Mr. Shortt talked about the lengthy process that...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: That is going to strain the finances of RTÉ further because I am sure the Government is not going to pick up the tab, nor should it. What level of learning have we with incompetent decisions? The witnesses took weeks, as a board, for someone who was leaving anyway, and six weeks from her role being fulfilled as the DG-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: No, sorry. The board took a week to decide on someone who had only six weeks left in the role. This decision was made by a board. Is that not correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: This decision that Mr. Lynch made was made by two people. We are talking about a mistake, or whatever it is going to be called, that has cost €150,000. This will cost hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of euro. Where are we going to see accountability? At the end of the day, Mr. Lynch said he will not resign. He is not being asked to take a reduction in salary. When that...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: No, I agree with that. I do not mean the board-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: I mean the full executive should have been aware of a decision that was going to result in a payout of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of euro at the end of this. That will be the end result. There will not be accountability. Nobody will be sacked because the scapegoats are already in place.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: That is why I asked. I asked what it looked like.

Culling the National Herd: Motion (Resumed) [Private Members] (28 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: Minister, please, a bit of respect.

Culling the National Herd: Motion (Resumed) [Private Members] (28 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: I have to say that such allegations need to be explained.

Culling the National Herd: Motion (Resumed) [Private Members] (28 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: It might be better-----

Culling the National Herd: Motion (Resumed) [Private Members] (28 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: Yes, but not with an allegation like that. Continue, Deputy.

Culling the National Herd: Motion (Resumed) [Private Members] (28 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: The next slot is about to be taken by Deputy McNamara, who is making his way into Chamber.

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