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Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: It must be a good one. I wish the Minister would share it.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: I thank the Senator.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: Is the Acting Chairman looking for a quorum?

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: Was the Acting Chairman looking for a quorum? I am quite happy if he wants one.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: A quorum, yes.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: Exactly, it should have fallen.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: I agree. It seems to me to be quite extraordinary that one should disqualify from the appointments committee the very people who have personal and direct experience and knowledge of the situation. That seems to be absolutely 100% daft. The House is in the debt of Senator McDowell for his magisterial illustration of the genesis of this legislation in a personal animusfrom one person. The...

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: I think the Minister should avoid those phrases. It got his leader into trouble.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: I am not acting as a parrot.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: I have to respond to the Minister because he is such a nice and charitable man usually, and he does come from Laois. However, I do not know what he is going to challenge. Senator McDowell read the provisions of the Bill into the record of the House.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: It was a Bill that was printed by the Bill's Office.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: The Minister can call it a phantom Bill and call it fake news. I do not know. What are the Minister's views on President Trump?

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: Can I have a break for a little laugh? I think I have done something unusual in that I have unearthed a new point, even though the old melodies are lovely and go to our hearts and we do so much enjoy the repetition of the good old tunes. We were asked what was in-depth. That is like Joxer from "Juno and the Paycock": "What is the stars? That is a darlin' question, Captain Boyle." I...

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: Without definition.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: Absolutely. It defines "chairperson" as chairperson of the commission. If one defines a chairperson, surely one should define the PAS.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: And are they all lay people?

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: They must be disqualified if they have any legal qualifications or understanding whatsoever.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: Who are they?

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: It is not much of an assumption.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (9 Jul 2018)

David Norris: Of course it is relevant. It shows mens rea.

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