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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Mr. O'Donnell did not use it when he was claiming subsistence. We will be able to get a record of that.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Hold on. Why would Mr. O'Donnell claim subsistence from IFI?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Let us clear that up. For travel, Mr. O'Donnell was claiming an overnight and had no mileage.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Mr. O'Donnell had no mileage claim.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Mr. O'Donnell would fill the IFI car using the fuel card.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: And Mr. O'Donnell does not use that outside the business.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Perfect. IFI obviously has oversight of the fact that Mr. O'Donnell has a vehicle that he uses for work only.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Does IFI have telematics information?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: That is fine. The information we received indicates that there was no record. I know that details of a HR letter were referred to earlier. However, that letter came after the fact of our investigation or that of the Comptroller and Auditor General. Was that letter posted or emailed to Mr. O'Donnell? How did he receive it? How did he find that it had not been submitted initially?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Okay. Ms Bradley.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: I just need to know where the letter that the Comptroller and Auditor General did not receive came from.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: It was after the fact of our report.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Sorry, I will clarify that with the Comptroller and Auditor General.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Which would not suffice from the point of view-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Now that has been explained, in the absence of the board making that decision, why did Mr. O'Donnell go ahead and repay the subsistence?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: A man of Mr. O'Donnell's experience is telling me, to be clear, that he needed the Comptroller and Auditor General to advise that it was not proper practice in line with public service guidelines that he would just change the address.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: There must be a code of conduct.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Mr. O'Donnell said the chair of the board agreed to it. Where have we seen that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Who was the chair of the board at the time?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Mr. O'Donnell is saying categorically, under oath, that Mr. Gorman agreed to his change of work base. Did he just say-----

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