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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: The next question was to the Department of Transport on electric vehicles and taxing SUVs.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: I will jump in on that point. While a large EV might be more climate friendly than a fossil fuel car, a lighter and smaller EV is even more climate friendly again and it seems there is a gap in how the vehicles are classified in the tax code.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: Is there evidence that this is working?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: I will move to the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine for the final question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: I thank Mr. Crammond, and I thank Senator Boylan for her questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: The first question, on the resources that might be required, is for Mr. Ó Rahallaigh.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: There were two questions for Mr. Mahon - one on engagement, including with youth, and another on public lighting and the percentage of the local authority fleet that has been converted to a more sustainable form.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: There were some questions directed to the Department of Climate, Environment and Communications on retrofitting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: Was the first question on the charging points and lamp standards for Mr. Mahon?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: Mr. Carroll might come in on that one as well. Does Mr. Mahon want to go first?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: I thank Mr. Mahon. Dr. O'Grady is indicating to come in on this one.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: Can I sound a significant note of caution on this topic? The first objective in avoid-shift-improve is to reduce the need for driving. That is to enhance the capacity of the population to walk as much as possible and to cycle. Where there is currently on-street parking, which is pretty much where the public lighting is, we will have to make our footpaths much wider. We will have to take...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: Can I come in on the discussion on avoid-shift-improve? Mr. Mellett mentioned that the “shift” referred to shift to EVs. It absolutely does not. The electric vehicles fall under “improve”. As well as this, avoid-shift-improve are in order of priority. “Avoid” is the first priority, “shift” refers to shift to active travel modes and...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: It is important to say that it is in order of priority and that it is not a choice. The “avoid” and the “shift” are a higher priority than the “improve”, which is where the EVs are. I interjected a few times during the questioning by other members, but I still have my own to ask. Starting with the witnesses from the Department of Agriculture, Food...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: The other questions are probably for Dr. O'Grady.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: It is not just about sales; it is about the number of vehicles in the system. What policies and strategies are there reduce the number of fossil fuel vehicles in the system? An SUV bought today will be around-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: -----until 2035, if not beyond.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: Dr. O'Grady mentioned that the models predicted an increase, but we have levers at our disposal to determine whether there should be an increase. Are we letting the models lead us a little?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: Dr. O'Grady mentioned the EV policy pathway working group quite a few times. Is there any similar group in the Department that looks at active travel roll-out or sustainable transport roll-out?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Budgets: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jan 2022)

Brian Leddin: Is there a working group on active travel, similar to the EV policy pathway working group?

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