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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: To be clear, Mr. Watt is refusing to furnish the Committee of Public Accounts with the report and is refusing to give it updated costings. He said he would be able to discuss updated costings once he received the report. He has had the report since May but has thus far refused to furnish us with it and now cannot even confirm costings. When he told us he would be able to discuss the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: That is our role too.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: Who advised Mr. Watt not to send the report to the Committee of Public Accounts? Mr. Watt said it was because of advice he received.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: Who advised him?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: But Mr. Watt is head of the Department so did he ultimately make the decision not to furnish the committee with the report?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: Would he provide it confidentially to the committee? Surely he would not have an issue with that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: The Committee of Public Accounts will take responsibility.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: Mr. Watt says he is interested in protecting the State's interest. Surely if we are looking at costs in excess of €2 billion, and it is public money, it is in the State's interests to know exactly what this hospital will cost and if it will be the most expensive children's hospital in the world. I again ask Mr. Watt whether he will provide the committee with the report. If he is...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: Whose view?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: So it would be down to-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: We know all that. Just to get to the-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: Mr. Watt made the decision not to publish the report. He is also saying now that unless he gets the go-ahead, which I presume is from the Minister, to furnish us with the report confidentially, he cannot do so. Who is he looking to get permission from?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: Right. If he is the one who decides, can he furnish the Committee of Public Accounts with the report confidentially - "Yes" or "No"?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: We would argue that this is exactly why he should furnish us with the report.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: Sorry, in fairness, we are time restricted and Mr. Watt is here to answer questions so-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: He is refusing to give us the report.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: He just said "No" - even in a confidential manner.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: Mr. Watt has refused point-blank today to furnish us with the report confidentially. That is not about it being made public. He said that once he got the report, which he has had since May, he would be able to discuss updated costings once the report was completed. Now we have him stating point-blank on the public record that he will not publish the report because of sensitivities, which...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: HSE officials stated that the solution was a provision to be inserted into contracts with nursing homes. The HSE suggested that. So Mr. Watt is not aware of any progress in that regard.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
(16 Dec 2021)

Imelda Munster: The HSE said it was limited so it told the Department-----

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