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Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Agreement 2010-14: Discussion with Implementation Body (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Fitzpatrick used the term "enabler" a number of times. Should the body not be a driver? An enabler is able to say, "We are here if you want us to help you."

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Agreement 2010-14: Discussion with Implementation Body (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: The distinction between the agreement and the body's implementation role is good. Mr. Fitzpatrick stated, "The level of co-operation and engagement between the employers, the Government bodies and trade unions is excellent." This is a good phrase for some, but it is a worrying one for others. He also described the engagement as "exemplary". People outside will interpret this as being too...

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Agreement 2010-14: Discussion with Implementation Body (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: I welcome Mr. Fitzpatrick and Mr. Menton. It is extraordinary that the Minister could not clarify the mystery of the expiry date in the Chamber yesterday and the witnesses cannot help me on it today. I will approach the problem from a slightly different perspective. Approximately how much time elapsed from the Government's decision to commence negotiations on the agreement until its...

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Agreement 2010-14: Discussion with Implementation Body (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: I am aware of that. It has nothing to do with Mr. Fitzpatrick. I am simply asking whether he has an idea about it. I accept that he may not know.

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Agreement 2010-14: Discussion with Implementation Body (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: I ask about the agreement rather than how it is being operated.

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Agreement 2010-14: Discussion with Implementation Body (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: Approximately how long did it take to negotiate?

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Agreement 2010-14: Discussion with Implementation Body (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: That was September 2008.

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Agreement 2010-14: Discussion with Implementation Body (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: The expiry date seems to be one of the secrets of Fatima. Nobody seems to know about it.

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Agreement 2010-14: Discussion with Implementation Body (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: Yesterday, the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform indicated that it is generally understood to be around the end of next year. Are the issues of increments and allowances mentioned in the agreement and what is Mr. Fitzpatrick's opinion on them? Is it proper to deal with them as part of the change package?

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Agreement 2010-14: Discussion with Implementation Body (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: It could come before the implementation body.

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Agreement 2010-14: Discussion with Implementation Body (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: I ask Mr. Fitzpatrick to explain the procedures. The public is familiar with the Labour Court. Is a separate mechanism provided for under the agreement or can disputes be fast-tracked through the Labour Court? What happens if a Department wants to introduce a change but the trade union does not agree?

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Agreement 2010-14: Discussion with Implementation Body (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: I have come across cases in which public staff were asked to relocate by managers who argued they were not protected by the Croke Park agreement. What reforms or changes to practices are taking place in the public service outside the remit of the agreement and who decides whether a change is covered by it?

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Agreement 2010-14: Discussion with Implementation Body (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: If a manager wanted to close a branch or office, what would happen?

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Agreement 2010-14: Discussion with Implementation Body (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Fitzpatrick referred to disputes that are outside of Croke Park.

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Agreement 2010-14: Discussion with Implementation Body (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: How many cases have come before the LRC or the Labour Court - two, ten or 300?

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Reform Plan: Discussion (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: It would be €30 million.

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Reform Plan: Discussion (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: The Minister of State should tell them that.

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Reform Plan: Discussion (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: I thank the Minister for his presentation which dovetails with the discussion we had during Question Time in the Chamber yesterday. When he announced his plan in November 2011, I mentioned the appointments of eight to ten senior responsible owners in the overall delivery of each of the major ten crosscutting projects. Are they ten new staff? How many people have been employed to deliver...

Public Accounts Committee: Public Service Reform Plan: Discussion (11 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: On the procurement issue I ask the Minister to outline the outside commercial experience. I would hate to think we are just growing our own internally. People have done MBAs in procurement but have never personally purchased anything beyond a car for themselves. I ask the Minister to outline the range of commercial practical experience. My other point relates to property and is broader...

Fiscal Responsibility Bill 2012: Second Stage (Resumed) (10 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: I welcome the opportunity to speak on the Fiscal Responsibility Bill 2012. The background and context to the discussion is that the Irish people recently voted in a referendum, by a majority of 60% to 40%, to pass what was generally described at the time as the fiscal compact agreement. Essentially, this legislation is to give effect to the budget and debt rules which are part of the...

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