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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: I am sorry that I had to cut Ms Cunningham off. It was no reflection on her submission at all. We are trying to be fair to everybody and to give them equal time. She will definitely have the opportunity to come in and out over the course of the next few hours, which I hope will give her a chance to say everything she wants to say as the meeting progresses. Last but not least, we have the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: I thank Mr. McAnenly very much for that contribution and for keeping within time. We can now commence our engagement with the members. I thank all opening speakers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: That wraps up Senator Gallagher's initial round. The Senator will, of course, have a chance to come back in again over the course of the meeting. For now, I am going to move on to the next speaker.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: I thank Mr. Mullen. Would any of the other organisations like to respond to Deputy Kenny's points?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: I thank Mr. McAnenly. Deputy Kenny has 15 seconds remaining if he would like to make a brief response.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: Members will have an opportunity over the course of the meeting to come back in again.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: We are a bit over time but you can come in because you did not get a chance. It is useful to get different views on this point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: It is very useful to have the views of those in the room. I thank Deputy Smyth for some excellent questions. Before I move on, I wish to clarify the consultation process. Will the Department clarify who was consulted on this legislation as it was drafted?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: When Ms Barry refers to Garda oversight organisations, does that mean GSOC or who does that mean?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: It is useful to note that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: Does the Senator want to address that question to a particular organisation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: Yes, quickly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: We will move on to the next speaker at this point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: We are not taking supplementary questions. Every member will get a round of questions which will be for seven minutes. Rather than letting the Senator in now, because other members are waiting patiently to get in, I will mark him down for the next available slot and he will have the full seven minutes. Is that okay?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: We will try to get the Senator in sooner if we can. Deputy Costello is up next.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: Would any of the other organisations like to comment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: I ask the witnesses from the Department of Justice to respond to Senator McDowell because I think they are best placed to address it. The representatives from the other organisations have asked these same questions and expressed similar views themselves. We have observers on the call from the Department. Does Ms Barry wish to take this question?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: Does the Deputy want anyone in particular to respond to him?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: Does anyone wish to comment on the Deputy's contribution? Otherwise, I will move on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill: Discussion (15 Feb 2022)

James Lawless: That concludes our opening round of questions. There is time for a round of supplementary questions for those members who wish to come in a second time. As usual, members need to be more concise in the second round of questions.

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