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Seanad: Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: On a point of order, I thought the Leader said in her contribution a few minutes ago that she was going to go to the Chief Whip to get an answer to Senator Kyne's question about sitting later. It seems that almost everyone present wants to sit later. Every point of order that has been raised can be clarified and answered by the Chief Whip or by the Leader. One of the reasons we were given...

Seanad: Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: -----and is willing to sit late.

Seanad: Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: Could we just get an answer?

Seanad: Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: Even though almost everyone wants to sit later because this is really important, we cannot do it because one person does not want to.

Seanad: Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: Does the Cathaoirleach not want to know who the Acting Leader is?

Seanad: Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: I am honestly asking. The Cathaoirleach says it is a matter for the Leader. Surely, he will want to know.

Seanad: Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: The Cathaoirleach is going to have to go to the Acting Leader to propose a suspension or to propose to move on.

Seanad: Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: Surely, the Cathaoirleach will want to know who the Acting Leader is?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Shoplifting: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: I thank the witnesses for their contributions. I thought that the most interesting thing was what Mr. Jennings said a few minutes ago about how the development of an individual can start at shoplifting and can go on, through years of being let off with it, to a much more serious crime event. In this building we sometimes hear from individuals - particularly in the Seanad - who would talk...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Shoplifting: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: These people are saying they are from their community and understand it, or they may be from a minority group. People should not be let off simply because of their background or where they grew up, family circumstances or anything like that. A crime is a crime.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Shoplifting: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: Exactly. And they are the ones being victimised.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Shoplifting: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: Mr. Dunne was talking about his shops in different areas and challenges he faces. I was talking to one of his managers in a shop in Tipperary. where I am from. One of Mr. Dunne's shops in Tipperary has been robbed three times since this meeting started.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Shoplifting: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Shoplifting: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: One of the independent stores has been robbed three times since this meeting started.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Shoplifting: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: That just gives an idea.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Shoplifting: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: I am not making it up. This would be in a rural town in Tipperary which would not be perceived as being very socially deprived or a place where a lot of crime occurs. It is a very good town. It has been robbed three times and its employees are victims.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Shoplifting: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: Is Mr. Dunne finding what I find in Tipperary, namely, that shops have different relationships with different Garda stations? There could be a Garda station covering one area of Tipperary where the relationship is really good and the gardaĆ­ arrive quickly. However, there could be another place in County Tipperary where the gardaĆ­ in the station do not come out at all.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Shoplifting: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: Ms Buckley said the retail landscape of this country will look very different in coming years if the Government does not recognise the impact of its actions. What did she mean?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Shoplifting: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: Why does Ms Buckley raise that in the context of shoplifting?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Shoplifting: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Garret Ahearn: Ms Buckely is hardly suggesting that we should eliminate these to reduce costs because shoplifting is expensive.

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