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Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: There is the issue. Even in the old understanding from Portugal, which is 20 years old, and they would see their decriminalisation model now as completely outdated, when we look at the fact there would be even later sanctions, and even though addiction does not work that way, it is still criminalising addiction but actually decriminalising personal drug use. If you are a recreational drug...

Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: Also, in the current system, the 2017 proposal the Department is saying it is running out, which is an adult caution system, would the witnesses also see that as not being decriminalisation, that it is a case that we are going to temporarily say it is a health issue and then we are going say it is not a health issue but a criminal issue?

Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: Within limits. There would still be limits set on the amount.

Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: Beyond the limit.

Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: Is it though? It is still criminal justice-led because it still allows people to be stopped and searched.

Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: So it is actually still criminal justice-led with a potential health outcome.

Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: That is saying two different things, because if we want to take it out of the criminal justice system, then we also want to take it out of policing. We cannot uncouple policing of people on the street and possession of drugs in the criminal justice system.

Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: I will invite Dr. Ivers next as she has not come in much.

Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: I appreciate that. We will now go to Deputy Shanahan.

Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: I appreciate that.

Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: We will proceed to Senator Fitzpatrick, who was not here for our four-minute rounds. We might just restart the clock.

Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: It is a referral. Since it does not involve a court system, have the police power to compel somebody to go to a diversion service?

Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: I believe that everyone is in agreement that the housing issue will come up and especially in the work of Dr. Ivers around that recovery capital piece. If the person cannot access housing then he or she is already at a deficit. Drugs possession is in the most serious category. No matter how simple the possession is, it is currently in the category with serious sexual crimes, murder, and...

Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: How would Mr. Reid have cast it? I am only messing.

Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: That did not answer the query about an alternative question that only looked at the models used in the likes of Malta and Germany rather than legalisation in a universal sense. They are different questions.

Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: It is not within the legalisation model, but all drugs are to be decriminalised equally according to the model of the citizens’ assembly.

Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: I thank Mr. O’Neill. As the chair of the citizens’ assembly, is there any question that was not asked today that Mr. Reid wish had been in terms of what he would like to see happen?

Committee on Drugs Use: Citizens' Assembly on Drugs Use: Discussion (13 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: I was just checking. I thank the witnesses. This meeting has been informative. It makes sense that they be the first people in the room over the coming seven months. I thank them for their work and the clarity they have provided so far. We are grateful. I ask committee members to remain in the room so that we might go into private session. We will then adjourn until Thursday, 20...

Seanad: Nithe i dtosach suíonna - Commencement Matters: Mother and Baby Homes (11 Jun 2024)

Lynn Ruane: The final part is the most important part there. The groups involved felt their analysis had been done and then there had been radio silence rather than a response to it. The insight that those with the expertise required to review the findings are currently reviewing them is helpful. Will the Minister of State relay to the Minister, Deputy O'Gorman, that it might be helpful if he gave an...

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