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Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners (Supplementary) (5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: Who gains from the payment of that €20 million? How does it happen?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners (Supplementary) (5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: I understand. Can the Minister of State tell me a little about the black economy and the Revenue Commissioners' examination of containers that come in through our ports relative to cigarette smuggling, alcohol smuggling and so on? We have been told by those at the coalface of retail business that there is a huge amount of undetected cigarettes and alcohol coming through the ports and that...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners (Supplementary) (5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: That does not take from the fact that it is reported to us that there was a €48 million loss of revenue to the State because of the quantity of cigarettes and alcohol being smuggled through our ports. That affects small retailers. I understand that one can buy illegal cigarettes within a stone's throw of this House. There are known outlets that sell illegal cigarettes. There are...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: The last time the Minister was here, I asked about the local State solicitors service. Does that come under the Minister, Deputy Donohoe's remit?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: Is it under Vote 5?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: That is it. We probably will not be-----

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: I thank both Ministers and all of their officials for coming along and for their interaction during the course of this term. I wish them well in the forthcoming election. It is great to know that we all started our apprenticeship together in the Committee of Public Accounts.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: Is it agreed that consideration of the Supplementary Estimates for the Department of Public Expenditure, NDP Delivery and Reform has concluded? Agreed.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Message to Dáil (5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: In accordance with Standing Order 101, the following message will be sent to the Clerk of the Dáil: The Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach has completed its consideration of the following Supplementary Estimates for public services for the year ending 31 December 2024: Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Plan Delivery and Reform; Vote 12 -...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: The retired public servants who count the votes make a superannuation contribution.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: That is the votes that will be counted after 29 November. There will be retired public servants there who will be stopped their superannuation payment but get no benefit from that. Maybe it is not the Minister's area but I want to find out from someone. It is just in case there is a tie and I need a friend across the counter. Why are they stopped the contribution for that day? Will the...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: These are all very important and are raised at the doorway.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: The Minister of State gave me a note on the flood relief scheme in Kilkenny. He went back over the history of it. I recommend looking at the original tender, which was far less than €42 million. I am not saying this to embarrass anyone but we should explain to people how it can move from €4 million or €5 million to €42 million. It is worth showing the record of...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: All politics is local.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: Would they get a curator over there? It will not cost an arm and a leg.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: A cat.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: I know the castle is positive about it because of the association between the document and Cartoon Saloon. I am interested in bringing the document for display in Kilkenny Castle. It would be a great way to publicise the castle and the association with Cartoon Saloon, which is of international renown.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform (Supplementary)
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
Vote 14 - State Laboratory (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office (Supplementary)
Vote 19 - Office of the Ombudsman (Supplementary)
(5 Nov 2024)

John McGuinness: Will the Minister of State go back to the museum on the far side? It is willing to co-operate.

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