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Public Accounts Committee: Garda Síochána - Review of Allowances (1 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: Does every member of the force now have the Tetra radio system?

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Síochána - Review of Allowances (1 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: Is there an allowance for that?

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Síochána - Review of Allowances (1 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: As I understand it, Mr. Gleeson is saying that if it is done through the Tetra system, a communications unit can be listening, but sometimes an officer might want to talk to another officer on a one-to-one basis, so a mobile telephone will keep him or her out of that loop.

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Síochána - Review of Allowances (1 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: What is the problem? Why would members not all use the Tetra system if it is provided? I have a feeling that many gardaí use their own telephones.

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Síochána - Review of Allowances (1 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: Why?

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Síochána - Review of Allowances (1 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: We might get some indication of that. There must be some record, for payment purposes if for no other reason, of how many members of the force would have used a private car in the past year. Is it a tiny percentage or is it a lot?

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Síochána - Review of Allowances (1 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: I am thinking of regular gardaí more so than other ranks.

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Síochána - Review of Allowances (1 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: That is extra.

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Síochána - Review of Allowances (1 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: Do the mobile telephones that are provided cost a lot? Are they with just one company? I hope the Garda Síochána has a good deal on that. That is all.

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Síochána - Review of Allowances (1 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: I can see a difference between what happens on the ground and what is official policy. I will leave that to the Garda representatives to talk about separately. The Commissioner can understand that I had the perception that many gardaí use mobile telephones.

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Síochána - Review of Allowances (1 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: I welcome the Commissioner and the representatives of the Association of Garda Sergeants and Inspectors and the Garda Representative Association. The general issues have been well discussed so I will ask specific questions. Do many members of the force have to use their own cars and telephones? What is the position on mobile telephones? Perhaps I am wrong but I often assume gardaí...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 25: Environment, Community and Local Government - Review of Allowances
(31 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: Is there information we have yet to receive?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 25: Environment, Community and Local Government - Review of Allowances
(31 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: Is this the largest single group? What about the HSE, which is an obvious group?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 25: Environment, Community and Local Government - Review of Allowances
(31 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: The HSE has grown from the health boards, which grew out of county committees on health. They all have their roots at county level. It goes back a few years. The committee must be conscious of this point.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 25: Environment, Community and Local Government - Review of Allowances
(31 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: That is exactly my point. The Department has notified us of allowances that amount to a few euro a day. My opening remark was about travel allowances paid by the month or the quarter to, I suspect, every area engineer and road supervisor in the country. They are entitled to them and the allowance probably represents good value. It must amount to a large sum of money. The Department has...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 25: Environment, Community and Local Government - Review of Allowances
(31 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: Would that not be standard in every local authority?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 25: Environment, Community and Local Government - Review of Allowances
(31 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: How does a person claim-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 25: Environment, Community and Local Government - Review of Allowances
(31 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: I understand and we are agreed on that point. I have no problem with the allowance, but I am seeking a note on how the system operates. Would a city or county manager have the information? The Department does not need to survey every local authority. An area engineer or road supervisor with a couple of depots in his or her area would hop in a car, travel ten miles today and 48 tomorrow....

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 25: Environment, Community and Local Government - Review of Allowances
(31 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: That is probably it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 25: Environment, Community and Local Government - Review of Allowances
(31 Oct 2012)

Seán Fleming: It goes without saying that, to make sure everything is right, there are procedures to obtain Revenue's approval for these allowances.

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