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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: It strikes me that the members of the board, rather than Mr. McFeely or Dr. Neavyn, should be here. I do not know if others feel the same way. It is comforting to know that one individual said "No" or "Stop". It seems extraordinary that nobody else did so. One has to assume that members of the board and others knew what was going on but said nothing over that ten-year period. I find that...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: Sure.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: As these other companies were appointed, did anyone at board level ask the obvious questions about the tendering process? Did they ask where the tendering process was, or whether the guidelines were followed? Did anyone raise this issue?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: What was the response from the president when they were raised? I am sorry for going over old ground. What was his response when the specific issue of the tendering process, as far as these companies were concerned, was raised?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: He had a relationship with some of them.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: Was it known at board level in the audit committee that an adherence to the very basic guidelines with regard to formal tendering was not in existence? Was it the case that there was an acceptance that this was the way it was being done? It seems to be the case that the guidelines were flouted and disregarded at board level. That is why I said earlier that Mr. McFeely and Dr. Neavyn might...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: Right.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: That is fair enough. I would like to ask a question about something that was raised in the report. I am asking to satisfy my personal curiosity.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: I refer to a charter flight with Bell Airways from Waterford to Dublin which cost €4,200. For whom was this flight chartered?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: It was for Jim Port.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: Has Dr. Neavyn ever questioned that, or gone into it himself?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: Has he questioned why this was necessary?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: Fair enough.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: That is fair enough. There is nobody here who does not understand the kind of disturbing legacy Dr. Neavyn has inherited and what he is trying to do to deal with it. I think that is fair enough. It seems extraordinary to an outsider. I do the journey every week. It is 120 miles. Has anyone questioned why it was necessary to charter a flight for an official in the Department of Education...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: Sorry, it was Mr. Port, who was-----

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: I understand. Has anyone questioned why that happened?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (27 Sep 2012)

John Deasy: Has he been asked?

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