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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Is it correct to say that non-EU drivers need work permits?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: They have to apply-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: -----for tests and start from scratch, albeit they may pass their tests on the first attempt. The testing times in respect of coach licences are long.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: We could have coach drivers coming to Ireland from non-EU European countries who have been driving buses in their respective countries for years but who have to start here as if they had never been on a motorbike or tractor before.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Is it possible or highly likely?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: The non-exchange ones.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Not many of us have touched on the issue of sustainability so far. What is the general age and size of the fleet? Is it moving towards hydrogen or electrical power? Are there Government supports for that or is there any movement in that direction? We have Zero Emission Vehicles Ireland, ZEVI, and there is a great deal of discussion about taxis, but where are we in decarbonising the fleet...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: How many coaches would that €5 million cover? Is it ten? Is it 20?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: There is a great deal of work to be done, not just by operators, but by the Government if it wants operators to become sustainable.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: We will engage.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: That is why I want to touch on this matter. It has not really been touched on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: I thank the witnesses for their efforts on behalf of their members. I assure them that most, if not all, members of the committee, including myself, will be happy to engage with them further. Coach operators are the backbone of many parts of Irish society, for example, summer camps, schools that are travelling to matches, people going on tours, residents' groups, etc. All kinds of people...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Or the RSA or the NTA.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: We are all on the same side in here. There is none of this Opposition stuff at all.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Mr. Brady for his presentation. From what I am seeing, this is the TII report on the impact of national road speed limit reductions so it is all about the national road network. I read the 29-page document as much as the opening statement. TII was focusing purely on the national road network, namely, the motorways and national dual and single carriageways. Much of the traffic we...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: They would also encounter congestion in towns and villages that they would not encounter on the motorway.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Is that the main reason people in TII's model go off better, safer roads and onto older roads? I do not understand why people would do that, other than to save on tolls, if the speed limit is the same on both roads.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: They get speed savings.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Yes, because of speed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Coach Sector: Discussion (19 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Urban areas are not dealt with in TII's report but are kind of in its conclusions, where it is stated: "Concentrated, slow-moving traffic in congested urban areas results in higher amounts of emissions per vehicle-kilometre." Appendix A very much reflects that. What are the witnesses' thoughts on Love 30? If everybody in Dublin or all urban areas were mandated to drive at no faster a speed...

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