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Written Answers — Department of Rural and Community Development: Corporate Governance (7 Nov 2023)

Catherine Murphy: 1461. To ask the Minister for Rural and Community Development the number of complaints she has filed to the Corporate Enforcement Agency (CEA) since the establishment of the CEA and or An Garda Síochána in the past ten years to date in respect of grants and or funds her Department provided that in her view were misappropriated. [48074/23]

Written Answers — Department of Rural and Community Development: Departmental Budgets (7 Nov 2023)

Catherine Murphy: 1470. To ask the Minister for Rural and Community Development the percentage of her 2023 capital budget allocation that has been spent in the first nine months of the year. [48760/23]

Road Safety: Statements (26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I am sorry; I did not know I was over time.

Road Safety: Statements (26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I will finish up by saying that we must get away from the notion that we have to move cars and towards the notion that we have to move people. Public transport plays a very big part in this, but it is very fragmented. It does play a part in terms of road safety.

Road Safety: Statements (26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Finally, we can see a noticeable change from automated crossings for schools as opposed to school wardens. Has there been a road safety assessment that indicates that is the best way? I want to see the evidence.

Road Safety: Statements (26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Okay.

Road Safety: Statements (26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I welcome the opportunity to speak in this debate and it is obviously a follow-on from a debate last week with regard to driver testing times. I mentioned in that debate that it is the clearest way of showing that people have earned the competency to drive on the road safely. However, we also have to be acutely aware that drivers are not the only road users. Obviously, there are...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 4: Accountability of the Central Funding of Local Authorities.
(26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: In addition to HAP and RAS, there are also the long leases to which Mr. Doyle referred, which are incredibly bad value for money. Properties are being leased for 25 years, with a rent review every four years and then returned to the owner at the end of the 25-year period once they have been refurbished. When HAP was introduced I made the point on numerous occasions in the Dáil that...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 4: Accountability of the Central Funding of Local Authorities.
(26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: There are some landlords who would be receiving very large amounts of taxpayer's subsidies, over and above the amount that would normally be required to be advertised. They are the ones I am talking about and there would be a cohort of that they are not required to advertise.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 4: Accountability of the Central Funding of Local Authorities.
(26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: They are in a different category. Is there transparency of that? I assume the Department has spreadsheets.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 4: Accountability of the Central Funding of Local Authorities.
(26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Can we have that?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 4: Accountability of the Central Funding of Local Authorities.
(26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Then we can drill down into it. Other than that we are talking in a vacuum. It is going to be quite important for us to drill down into that.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 4: Accountability of the Central Funding of Local Authorities.
(26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I understand the Department then makes a return to the Revenue. I think the two systems talk to each other to ensure compliance with tax rules.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 4: Accountability of the Central Funding of Local Authorities.
(26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: Okay. Mr. Doyle might give us a note on that as well.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 4: Accountability of the Central Funding of Local Authorities.
(26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I move to the Local Government Fund. We have signed the European Charter of Local Self-Government. The local property tax, LPT, was introduced, but it is centrally controlled. That became even more evident with the review of the baselines. Population certainly does not matter. We were told that was going to be one of the things that was going to be a factor in the review of the...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 4: Accountability of the Central Funding of Local Authorities.
(26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: It is an announcement of money but much of it is virtual money. The authorities are allowed use the same money differently.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 4: Accountability of the Central Funding of Local Authorities.
(26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I have gone through the budget in some considerable detail and I do not see where it is new money.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 4: Accountability of the Central Funding of Local Authorities.
(26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I do not need a big list. I understand this.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 4: Accountability of the Central Funding of Local Authorities.
(26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I must stop Ms Quinn there. Okay, there was a review, but population does not matter. I have done the numbers on this and it does not matter. Consider a county like Fingal that has outstripped everywhere else in population growth terms. There are whole new areas in it that did not exist in 2000, for example, and there is no compensation to that local authority for those new areas, despite...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 3: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 4: Accountability of the Central Funding of Local Authorities.
(26 Oct 2023)

Catherine Murphy: I must stop Ms Quinn there. Yes, that is the case and that simplifies it a little, but what occurs now is local authorities will have a baseline and once they go above it, they then have to self-fund things like roads. Motor tax is collected, but local authorities must use what is collected via the LPT on road repairs.

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