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Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: A few dozen?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: Mr. O'Brien might explain the nature of that as I genuinely do not understand it. Obviously an ambulance would be called if an incident occurred but to what type of incident would an ambulance manager come out? What is the role or function of an ambulance manager or to what types of cases would he or she come out? Surely an ambulance manager would only come out in the event of major...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: Yes. Blue light vehicles.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: The Garda would be able to identify them arriving at the scene.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: I would like a note to be forwarded to the committee on how many of these vehicles the executive has. We ask all Departments about travel and subsistence allowances.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: I thank our guests for attending. Are there many medical staff who are currently operating in administrative or managerial roles and who are still in receipt of allowances meant for front-line staff? Do many medical staff transfer into managerial or administrative positions?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: I accept that probably happens more in the area of, for example, local government than in the health service.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: That is fine. The general picture emerging from these proceedings is that there are approximately 67,000 direct HSE staff, of whom 41,000 - in the region of two thirds - are in receipt of allowances. Our guests indicated that there are of the order of 36,000 people operating in the voluntary sector. One could assume, therefore, that approximately 24,000 of the latter are in receipt of some...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: So there should not be any major surprises.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: I am not arguing with the definition of allowances which has been provided by our guests because it is probably clearer than those which have been supplied by various Departments, etc. Perhaps Mr. Barry O'Brien's point to the effect that the allowances paid by the HSE have been adjudicated on by the Labour Court is germane because the allowances paid to gardaĆ­ and members of the Defence...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: The HSE's terminology would be more specific because it has been before the Labour Court in respect of this matter. That is an important distinction. Are all the allowances under consideration today taxable and pensionable?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: Are many of them pensionable?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: I see that. How many of these allowances are identified on individual employees' payslips? Mr. Barry O'Brien referred to the eight HSE payroll systems. I was going to mention the situation relating to PPARS, which was at the different stages of integration in different parts of the health sector. That integration process was halted at a particular point when a controversy arose. The...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: It is operating in my area, the midlands.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: Without revisiting that - it is probably relevant to obtaining accurate information-----

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: The reason PPARS has probably arisen is because it is a method of recording information. It is stated in the documentation provided that there are 600 grades of staff across the HSE. One of the controversies which originally arose in respect of PPARS is that in the areas of the country where it was introduced, there were of the order of 2,700 pay rate variations at local level. People in...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: How are all of the variations to which I refer factored in to the HSE's definition? Are they regarded as pay as opposed to being considered allowances? The latter appears to be the case.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive - Review of Allowances (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: When members of the public discuss allowances, they think of travel allowances relating to individuals who use their cars in the course of their work. They believe the latter are paid rates of subsistence because they are working away from their base or whatever. Even though they would not necessarily be the subject of tax, such rates of subsistence must be listed on their payslips. How...

Written Answers — Department of Health: Hospital Accommodation (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: To ask the Minister for Health the total number of bed closures in acute hospitals in 2012; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [48927/12]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Care of the Elderly (8 Nov 2012)

Seán Fleming: To ask the Minister for Health his response to a recent report which states that every day over the next ten years, an additional seven older persons in the State will require long-term residential care or home help; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [48941/12]

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