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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: That is what Mr. Lynch is saying. So had there been no performance of the contract prior to May?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: So as far as Mr. Lynch is concerned, even though it was contained within the other contract that-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: The spring of 2021. Right. Again, we do not have evidence that supports anything, from the emails that end when Ms O'Keeffe goes away and retires, until April again. We have no contemporaneous note of any description. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: As to where it landed in between. From the time it was in almost a contract form – where the last email we have says that the contracts are prepared to be drawn up – is there nothing in between?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: It was already contained in the email of 20 August.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Which as Deputy Catherine Murphy pointed out, was almost - I just want to ask Mr. Bakhurst again if he has confidence in Mr. Lynch.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: A Chathaoirligh, there is something wrong with introducing text messages from somebody into this discussion. My God.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: On a point of order, we need to address the fact Ms O'Keeffe has said she has nothing further to add to this committee and has not come before us today. I am at a loss to know exactly how seriously Mr. Lynch is taking this, when he thought it was appropriate to correspond though text message in the middle of our committee meeting and was going to deliver a message from someone who has...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: On a point of order, I am at a loss to know how we can do business like that and how Mr. Bakhurst can have confidence in him. That is so serious. I am not sure Mr. Lynch understands the seriousness of what is actually happening here.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Unfortunately, the member that he-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: No, Chair, I am not agreeing to that. What I am saying is we need to address the fact we are being corresponded with by an outside person via text message.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Based on correspondence-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: In the context of what we are going to discuss this afternoon, I want to come back to Breda O'Keeffe's exit package. A process was in place for someone taking a voluntary redundancy programme package. The process is that that package would have be sanctioned or agreed by the executive. That process did not happen.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Mr. Lynch stated earlier that he did not sign off on it. He was part of the executive, was he not?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Does RTÉ have a contractual obligation to Mr. Tubridy at the moment?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: That calls for negotiation. Does RTÉ have a contractual obligation to Mr. Tubridy?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: That is vague in the context of what we are going to discuss in the afternoon. Is that a "Yes" or a "No"?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Absolutely, only for him. Like new members, how are you? All of the secretariat but, in particular, the members, will miss Shane. Katherine has big shoes to fill but I wish her the best of luck.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: He is flying now.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: I felt, based on the report and soundings that there will be a significant announcement of funding from the Department of Transport, that we have to look more seriously at how projects will be funded, given the waste that was recorded in our report. We should be asking NewERA to look at projects before moneys are sanctioned to ensure they are viable. Members should have a chance to read the...

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