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Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: What has the Leader been doing for the last seven years?

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: She never heard the Senator Cummins was here or was Leader of this House.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: If the Leader was doing his job, Deputy Regina Doherty would know all about this House.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: She is a dunce.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: I will withdraw nothing.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: I am under parliamentary privilege and when a Deputy gets up and says she has never heard of Seanad Éireann-----

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: -----that person must be totally incompetent.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: Withdraw what?

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: Certainly she is not a dunce, but she must be very inept.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: Dunce, yes. It is only a word.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: The Senator should not get emotional.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: That is it.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: I wish to make a final point. There is no provision in section 9 to consult the person responsible or father. We do not know the circumstances so I ask Senators not to jump to claims of rape, incest and everything else. Natural situations do arise and I will not mention the court case that is taking place. There is no regard for the person, whatever the circumstance, who is responsible...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: There should be equal rights for the mother and the child. Equal rights.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: That is two Government speakers.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: The amendment tabled by Senator Fidelma Healy Eames is an effort to change section 9. I do not agree with it. I have no wish to amend the section as I would prefer if the section was not in the Bill. Most of the Bill is well crafted by the Department of Health, and most people accept that. Nobody doubts the bona fides of the Department in this regard. However, this is a very important...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: Dr. Sam Coulter Smith, master of the Rotunda Hospital, a wonderful hospital, said there is no evidence to indicate that abortion prevents suicide, as did Dr. John Sheehan, consultant psychiatrist in the Mater Hospital and a lecturer in UCD. They are very eminent people. There appears to be a complete denial of the fact that section 9 will allow the abortion of a healthy child. That is what...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: I make that point because Senator Healy Eames tabled the amendment. I will not delay because others wish to speak. The architect of Britain's liberal abortion laws, Lord David Steel, has said the Irish Government will be making a mistake if it goes ahead with plans to legalise termination on the grounds of a threat of suicide. There were 185,000 abortions in England last year. Can one...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: Once that started, it continued. Let us be quite honest about this. We are talking about potential Irish boys and girls who will never experience life. That is the reality, although one can dress it up any way one wishes. I know this is a political decision. The members of the Fine Gael Party, in their hearts, did not want this Bill. They gave a commitment before the election that they...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Terry Leyden: I have dealt with the Labour Party in the Council of Europe.

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