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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: Mr. Tennant has a number of outstanding questions to answer from the Deputy's first round.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: Which "Prime Time" programme is the Deputy referring to? Is it the recent one?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: The information can be provided through the secretariat. I thank Deputy Mitchell. I have a few questions. Deputy Neville may come in then. Mr. Tennant's opening statement included several remarks about published reports. I have already dealt with the clarity I sought on that. That was appreciated. I understand the volume of work required. I have spoken to enough of the delegates,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: There are two separate questions. I was coming to the issue of contingent liability.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: What is the breakdown for medical and associated costs, including in respect of first aid, paramedics, the initial response if somebody breaks a leg, which I am sure happens, counselling and related services?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: Of course.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: Does that cover part of the medical aspect?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: What about counselling?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: It would be appreciated if it could be provided through the clerk. I do not want to know how much Mr. Elliott is being paid. Perhaps Dr. Lawlor will outline the position on the two roles. Is there a separate fund? Will it be reported on for Scouting Ireland's membership?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: I assume Mr. Elliott is not the only consultant used.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: I do not want to dwell on the public perception, or otherwise, of independence because I believe it is a matter for the beholder. The view of Deputy Sherlock is somewhat different from mine. My observation is that Mr. Elliott was an interim safeguarding manager of the organisation while simultaneously carrying out the historic review. In my mind, he was an employee. Therefore, he is not...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: Has anybody been suspended without prejudice?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: Has anybody stood down informally at any level of the organisation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: Under either process.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: Informally?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: There is a formal process in which a decision is made and a person is stood down. Then there is an informal process whereby the person stands down voluntarily. There is a distinct difference. Are there individuals who have been stood down by the organisation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: Are there individuals who stood down themselves voluntarily?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: Under heavy recommendation, it is still not a formal process.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: My final question goes back to the Lynch report. Ms Lorna Lynch produced a body of work on behalf of Scouting Ireland as an independent barrister. We have spoken about this with the delegates directly in the past. It has been referred to on many occasions and it is important in terms of the credibility of the hierarchy of the organisation. It is a matter of concern among the membership....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Alan Farrell: Could Mr. Tennant guess when it will come to a conclusion?

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